TheHun, Balerion, Sorcerer,
Thank you for the examples of demonizing people, but this is treading into off-topic propaganda territory.
This is what I posted: "Just try reason and logic"
What's your problem with that? If you do that you won't be demonising people, right? Or are you siding with the bible-bashers?
Yeah, you left out: "If you try some other scripture you just get into the 'my god is better than your god' 14yro spitting contest, which is what they like."
Might notice where you seem to be making a hasty generalization (i.e. propaganda). Note, this was intended as a polite reminder, but if you really wish to make more of it than that...
Oh, I get it, you're trying to provoke me into saying something so you can ban me, right? Several people have tried that already. What did Kattamuru say: bad attitude.
Regardless whatever provocation you may imagine, I take it that the polite reminder will suffice then. Good.
TheHun, Balerion, Sorcerer,
Thank you for the examples of demonizing people, but this is treading into off-topic propaganda territory.
Yeah, you left out: "If you try some other scripture you just get into the 'my god is better than your god' 14yro spitting contest, which is what they like."
Might notice where you seem to be making a hasty generalization (i.e. propaganda). Note, this was intended as a polite reminder, but if you really wish to make more of it than that...
No one is being demonized. Piss-poor attempt af baiting, Syne.
Stay out of it unless you have something to contribute.
That isn't a generalization. Sorcerer was talking about people who display a specifc behavior.
No, of course people who "deserve it" cannot possibly be demonized. [sarcasm]
When you assume that all religious people, here (or that you have "encountered"), are without integrity and bigots, that is the definition of demonizing (i.e. portraying as wicked and threatening).
Yes, because "which is what they like" is very specific as to who "they" are. [sarcasm]
Hasty generalizations of whole groups of people are fallacies, which are against the SciForums posting guidelines. It is statistically unlikely that all individuals in any group would adhere to any give characterization of the entire group, and negative characterizations based on group affiliation alone are propaganda. These are all SciForums policies.
I am not going to argue policy,
Hasty generalizations of whole groups of people are fallacies, which are against the SciForums posting guidelines. It is statistically unlikely that all individuals in any group would adhere to any give characterization of the entire group, and negative characterizations based on group affiliation alone are propaganda. These are all SciForums policies.
Then by your very own reasoning and argument, you should be questioning Jan about his comments about homosexuality being a choice and comparing homosexuality to rapists and paedophiles when it comes to "choice". Because from where we are sitting, it seems as though that was a gross and offensive generalisation and comparison. Just saying..
Are such opinions about "choice" not permissible (all humans are assumed to exercise choice)? Perhaps you should point out specific posts, as I am unlikely to take action on hearsay. And why have these posts not been reported, if they are so offensive and against posting guidelines?
I don't know, Syne. Is it?Are such opinions about "choice" not permissible (all humans are assumed to exercise choice)?
Well seeing that you keep reminding all of us of how pressed you are for time, I am not entirely surprised that you missed such blatant offensive comments...Perhaps you should point out specific posts, as I am unlikely to take action on hearsay. And why have these posts not been reported, if they are so offensive and against posting guidelines?
What's confusing is what form of iillogic your bigotry would take. And you genuinely surprised me with this.
So the difference is that gays have it easier because they can hide it? It isn't civil rights because we cant say for certain whether MLK would have fought for them?
Bigotry is the state of mind of a bigot: someone who, as a result of their prejudices, treats or views other people with fear, distrust, hatred, contempt, or intolerance on the basis of a person's opinion, ethnicity, race, religion, national origin, gender, gender identity, sexual orientation, disability, socioeconomic status, or other characteristics.
What bigotry?
The difference is that the African American was persecuted for being conceived/born, before any action or decision is even made by them. The homosexual is discriminated against purely for his/her lifestyle choice. The AA had absolutely no choice in the matter.
jan.
This bigotry:What bigotry?
Homosexuality isn't a lifestyle choice, any more than heterosexuality is a lifestyle choice. Sexuality is as immutable a quality as skin color.The difference is that the African American was persecuted for being conceived/born, before any action or decision is even made by them. The homosexual is discriminated against purely for his/her lifestyle choice. The AA had absolutely no choice in the matter.
Once is enough, thanks. Actually, none is enough, since your post will always contain your name on the left, just above your avatar.jan.
jan.
Do rapists and pedophiles have a choice?This bigotry:
Homosexuality isn't a lifestyle choice, any more than heterosexuality is a lifestyle choice. Sexuality is as immutable a quality as skin color.
jan.
This may be a subject for PM, but I think our neighbors would like to know the answer as well.Now, you can perhaps understand why I find your reaction to those who responded to Jan's and the arguments of others about their so called opinions about gays and demonizing gays by comparing them to rapists and paedophiles, that instead of speaking to the individuals actually breaking the rules - you know, the rules about stereotyping and offensive bigotry - you instead decide to mention the rules about those who were actually attempting to correct said stereotyping and offensive bigotry against homosexuals. After all, if Jan is now allowed to compare homosexuals to rapists and paedophiles because he is of the opinion it is a choice, then you have no real right to complain about others who make stereotypes of theists like Jan in response to his offensive comments. TheHun, Sorcerer, Balerion and others are also expressing opinions, Syne.
What egregious action would he need to take before his "cape" is stripped?