TheVisitor said:
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If you were of my level of comprehension, you'd know exactly what I mean.
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If you were as smart as you claim, .....you wouldn't need to tell anyone.
It wasn't my intent to brag, nor claim authority. I was just trying to put it in a way you could understand. I'm extremely bright regarding certain things, and I'm very average regarding others. I don't
need to tell you, I simply mentioned it because it came up. Perhaps "level" was the wrong word, though it seemed nuetral enough to me. I simply mean that you clearly do not understand what I understand. That doesn't necessarily mean I'm smarter.
And secondly, you would be capable of recognizing the things I have written about are based on fundamental truths readily observable in nature.
Almost everything I've seen you write was based on the bible. That is not a fundamental truth observable to nature, but a book. A book written by people in an attempt to comprehend and control their environment.
- fundamental - ;
"a : serving as an original or generating source : PRIMARY <a discovery fundamental to modern computers> b : serving as a basis supporting existence or determining essential structure or function : BASIC
2 a : of or relating to essential structure, function, or facts : RADICAL <fundamental change>; also : of or dealing with general principles rather than practical application
- Truth - ;
the state of being the case : FACT (2) : the body of real things, events, and facts : ACTUALITY (3) : often capitalized : a transcendent fundamental or spiritual reality b : a judgment, proposition, or idea that is true or accepted as true <truths of thermodynamics> c : the body of true statements and propositions
3 a : the property (as of a statement) of being in accord with fact or reality b : chiefly British : TRUE 2 c : fidelity to an original or to a standard
4 : capitalized Christian Science : GOD
Were you under the impression that I had misunderstood those words? Maybe you just needed to remind yourself what they mean? Ah, maybe you were tryign to show me that you know what that mean. I see you posted the definitions... and .... (giggle) then you show explicitely that you have no clue what they mean:
The truth as Christ put it, is so simple a child could not err therein.
You sir, are a little bible-centric and clearly almost entirely incapable of independent thought. Of course I always gotta say - maybe it's just me.
What is most difficult to explain is that it seems to me that to understand what I think I understand is to account for the inherent communication problems between minds which is to constantly struggle with it, as it is impossible to truly communicate clearly
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Whew,........that is a mouthful.
It's all in the fingers really.
I think the educational system has done us a great unjustice, to overcomplicate a matter seems to be the norm theses days.
You can say things as though they are obviously true, such as my - being here only to preach - , or my presense here being pointless.....but they may only seem true to you. From your point of veiw.
Science is still in the dark ages, the coming reign of kingdom of God on this earth is going to be far beyond the science of man today.
This kind of power must be governed by character.
Character is not doing your "own thing", or is it either "blind obedience" to some imaginary faith.......as you might claim, but it is a victory over one's self, and surrender to a power greater than your self, and that only the one true God.
We are not "God's" in ourselves..........though the word god means only; object of worship, so although you could worship yourself as many self-styled educated types do in their own minds they are no more a God than a block of wood or stone to an idol worshiper.
Anything can be a god, to anyone......but there is an all-powerful being and that is what I am refering to as God.
In the military, in order to have authority, you must also be under authority.....to be in the "chain of command".
The same is true in the kingdom of God.
But the human spirit, your "self" is contaminated.
You must be born of a seed, a gene, a spirit that is incorruptible by nature, feed this nature what It needs to develop and mature within you, and strive against your old nature to have this victory over one's self.
You've heard "your you're own worst enemy", and the "devil" you claimed I thought you were, has in fact a hold on all of us through our own flesh and the senses, not only of body but mind as well.
The bible as well as being the Word of God, is a weapon, a manual of instuction in spiritual warfare, and without it you have no chance in this day.
There is a war going on right now, and your on one side or the other whether you know it or not.
Jesus said; Who's not for me, is against me..........
I'm just ignoring all that crap above, as it is gibberish to me.
Here's a non-bible quote for you..........If you chose not to decide, you still have made a choice."
Yeah sure, I'm down with all that. It's toooooo true. I have the feeling though, that you don't really understand it at all. It's applicable to any scenario. It's a foundation of the concept of "instant destiny" as I see it. I think it's a wise observation about opportunity cost really.
I believe Mr. Pert was talking about not serving any God or Government, but the truth of the statement remains the same.
That was in the song, but I'm not sure that's specifically what he meant - I can't remember the context for sure, and I'm not sure that the context limits the merit of the comment anyway. It really is an excellent observation about opportunity cost and "the quest for that which is subjectively good".
Now, if you don't even realize this battle exists, you have been "compromised", blinded by the God of this world, and no amount of education will alow you to reason your way out of that darkness.
The God of this present world system, you used the term "devil", has reasoning powers well beyond that of mortal man, and without the Spirit of God.....you will never see the flaw in it.
... and then you just go back to gibberish. I see little point to debate with you.
I've said this as simply as I know how........if you can put aside the format of debate for just a moment, let me ask you, is there any of what I've just said you can agree with........?
I agree with the neal pert line, yah. Besides that you're just spewing bible crap. I don't care about it. You set up some war and all kinds of garbage you've 'learned' but shown zero tendency to quesiton the validity of any of it, or draw any rational conclusion from any of it (of course just my opinion). Spew on, but your dogma just makes you look useless to me. I want to think, to debate, to use my gifts to comprehend. You want to preach. Given my stated goal, you offer nothing. Despite that, I do like you, as I think you are a well-intended, though tragically retarded person.
You got it then, probably less than what you wanted. I know you think you've got a point - but I'm not lying when I tell you it's gibberish and you're unwilling to consider that possibility so I reach the conclusion that we're at an impass.