What are you talking about? Are Nazi beliefs to be exempt from the respect-love-value formula?
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What are you talking about? Are Nazi beliefs to be exempt from the respect-love-value formula?
now you are missing the last part of it....
it's simple. it all comes down to squelching your ego and respecting another, and that is based in love, and valuing freedom across the board. fear, insecurity, and hatred are what turn a disagreement into an attack. people should be free to believe whatever they want to believe without being threatened or threatening.
my point is why are you trying so hard to make that an issue when it is not..
no..because theirs is based on disrespect,hate, and devalueing human life.
it does not qualify for what lori has posted..
you had taken her comment completely out of context, all you heard was 'all beliefs should be respected', that is NOT what she said.
Yes, she said that.
no she said..
it's simple. it all comes down to squelching your ego and respecting another, and that is based in love, and valuing freedom across the board. fear, insecurity, and hatred are what turn a disagreement into an attack. people should be free to believe whatever they want to believe without being threatened or threatening.
that is quite a bit differant than her just saying 'people should be free to believe whatever they want to believe'
as i said..you have pulled that completely out of context
the context is the rest of it..
nope. but, i don't really give a shit what they believe, as long as it doesn't infringe on any one else's beliefs, or cause anyone any harm. that is freedom.
and by respect i mean, to not impose my beliefs on them or cause them harm because of theirs.
Christians cause harm to many people.
But Christians do not care about that.
In fact, they call it "love".
uke:"Harm" is probably one of the most relative terms there is.
The context is you not squelching your ego enough.
so now you get defensive?
Christians cause harm to many people.
But Christians do not care about that.
In fact, they call it "love".
"Harm" is probably one of the most relative terms there is.
so don't pass it on...
Christians cause harm to many people.
But Christians do not care about that.
In fact, they call it "love".
"Harm" is probably one of the most relative terms there is.
no. it's really not that complicated. my belief doesn't depend on anyone else's and their disbelief or belief doesn't have anything to do with me.
so let me get this straight...because i believe in god, you show me a picture of a bunch of dead jews and equate me with mass murderers. and you don't see that as an attack on your part?
it's ridiculous.
lots of people cause harm, and lots of people don't care, christian or not. and it's not love. i don't care what they want to call it to justify their hatred. it's a lie.
and here's the thing...i am just as sick and tired of religious people using religion as an excuse for hatred, as i am atheists buying their excuse. it's a scapegoat for both. atheists want to blame religion for hatred just as much if not more than religious people because they don't want to admit that there is something much more systemically and pandemically wrong with humans in general...including themselves.
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I am showing you that your stance
"it's simple. it all comes down to squelching your ego and respecting another, and that is based in love, and valuing freedom across the board. fear, insecurity, and hatred are what turn a disagreement into an attack. people should be free to believe whatever they want to believe without being threatened or threatening."
is not actually coherent or viable.
And unless you live in a vacuum, your beliefs depend on other people's, and their disbelief or belief has this or that to do with you and your beliefs.
We are interconnected and influence eachother, whether we like it or not.
The lovey-dovey liberals are just living in their own bubble of selective amnesia.
i don't trust anyone else with my beliefs, and i think that's prudent. my belief in god comes from an interaction with god, not with other people. and that's why i think that other's beliefs should not depend on mine. i think that everyone should get their own evidence, from god himself.
There is something unique about the qualities of Spirituality listed by the bible.
They all must be 100%
And one could argue for all them that there is no way to truly be uncompromising-ly selfless unless one defers his worries and concerns to someone like God.
How often are our ideals compromised because of forces beyond our control.
Most agree killing is wrong. If you're "forced" to kill you're compromising your ideas for your life.
Many times we are generous when we can afford to be.
What about when we can't afford it?
How can you be joyful even in suffering?
Some would argue that less there is a GREATER Benefactor such as God then the survival extinct is too strong for simple goodwill to overcome. I think that is the nature of spirituality. Faith...or 100% trust that removes the need to act in ones own behalf and instead act towards others needs.
that comes with maturity and the realization that worry/stress doesn't do anything to help it..