Deadly shooting at US university

[Hercules Rockefeller]

No, banning weapons is not the answer at all. When you make weaponry illegal all you do is make so all the gun out there are in criminal hands. If we truly lived in a society of easy access weaponry the Headline today would be. "Heavily Armed Lunatic gunned down by Intended Victims" the Death toll would be low single digits.

It’s truly amazing and quite bizarre how so many Americans can believe in such a blatantly stupid and nonsensical notion. The experience of just about every other country on Earth argues against this preposterous idea, yet somehow you all manage to hold on to it with the bone-headed determination of a captain going down with the ship.

 

[redarmy11]

No, banning weapons is not the answer at all. When you make weaponry illegal all you do is make so all the gun out there are in criminal hands. If we truly lived in a society of easy access weaponry the Headline today would be. "Heavily Armed Lunatic gunned down by Intended Victims" the Death toll would be low single digits.

http://www.iraqbodycount.org/

 

[redarmy11]

Not quite. It was the teachers fault. The shooter was upset because the teacher gave him a 99 instead of a 100. Then he shot up the place.

This from one who's so quick to accuse others of racism. Here's some info on the myth of the Asian 'model minority':

http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/L-aamodel.htm

 

[Teetotaler]

I know this is kind of off topic, but that bald chick that pretended to be dead to survive is totally hot!

 

[iam]

This from one who's so quick to accuse others of racism. Here's some info on the myth of the Asian 'model minority':

http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/L-aamodel.htm

I would agree with most of that. Most asians who move overseas are better off except for majority of southeast asians and many chinese.

I would disagree about the chinese, though there are those who come from higher socio-economic status, there are many that don't which have to work menial jobs. There is more than one social bracket who are looking for opportunity.

Most japanese, koreans and many chinese are from affluent backgrounds that migrate overseas, except for those who marry servicemen.

What does need to be pointed out is that asians in general do pull themselves up by their bootstrings, they don't stay on assistance or help long and they start businesses or are hardworking. As well, asians are usually law-abiding

 

[iam]

It seems many of us posting are unaware of the latent nature of most Asians.. they are by DNA a very cold, calculating and cruel people, but most of them can contain it when they have to. But just under the surface lies Mongol blood, some of the most barbarous people to have ever drawn air.

And what is your explanation for the crime sprees committed not only today but in all of history by all races???

I'd like to hear the logical, unbiased, true explanation.

 

[DeepThought]

It seems many of us posting are unaware of the latent nature of most Asians.. they are by DNA a very cold, calculating and cruel people, but most of them can contain it when they have to. But just under the surface lies Mongol blood, some of the most barbarous people to have ever drawn air.

Err... this sounds like a description of white people.

 

[S.A.M.]

And why is that?

To contain the high incidence of violence on campus.

 

[one_raven]

No, banning weapons is not the answer at all. When you make weaponry illegal all you do is make so all the gun out there are in criminal hands. If we truly lived in a society of easy access weaponry the Headline today would be. "Heavily Armed Lunatic gunned down by Intended Victims" the Death toll would be low single digits.

Really?
Is that why the countries in which it is more difficult to legally get weaponry than it is in America has less gun violence?

 

[redarmy11]

[enc]Category:Incendiary[/enc]

 

[S.A.M.]

[ENC]Category:Fruitless Chin-Stroking[/ENC]

 

[Saint]

CNN said the murderer is a chinese guy from Shanghai, I guess he could be upset with US and committed genocide.

 

[mountainhare]

Why isn't evolution in both of those categories? :bugeye:

 

[S.A.M.]

Why isn't evolution in both of those categories? :bugeye:

Good suggestion.

[ENC]Evolution[/ENC]

Now it is.

Back on topic, perhaps every university should have a trained SWAT team for quick response.

 

[Baron Max]

Back on topic, perhaps every university should have a trained SWAT team for quick response.

SWAT teams go in after the shooting has occured, which is exactly what happened, Sam. So ...no lives would have been saved, they'd just be there to pick up the dead bodies.

Funny, though, we make such a big deal out of 30-some dead people, yet the 8,000-10,000 people who died in Africa yesterday we say nothing. The news media leads us all around by the nose ...it even tells us when to mourn and who to mourn ...and we all do it obediently.

How many lives were lost yesterday in traffic accidents? How many lives were lost yesterday by murder? Those happen every day, yet we don't say a thing about it ...or mourn the loss.

God, we're a strange bunch o' people, ain't we?

Baron Max

 

[one_raven]

Back on topic, perhaps every university should have a trained SWAT team for quick response.

Why not every high school and every mall in the country as well?
That's an absurd notion, and entirely unnecessary.
You want to put armed swat teams at each of the thousands of universities in the country because of a few dozen dead?
That's the kind of paranoid thinking that makes people willing to sign away civil liberties and re-elect George Bush because they are too pathetically scared to do otherwise.

 

[nietzschefan]

GTA 4 is going to be banned I bet.

Society by lowest common denominator.

 

[Baron Max]

...because of a few dozen dead?
That's the kind of paranoid thinking that makes people willing to sign away civil liberties and re-elect George Bush because they are too pathetically scared to do otherwise.

Yeah, people should gladly accept the killings and murders in exchange for their "civil liberties" and "freedoms".

In fact, the killings at the university should be celebrated as a great sign that our civil liberties and freedoms are alive and well.

Baron Max

 

[one_raven]

Yeah, people should gladly accept the killings and murders in exchange for their "civil liberties" and "freedoms".

In fact, the killings at the university should be celebrated as a great sign that our civil liberties and freedoms are alive and well.

So are you saying you agree with Sam and there should be SWAT teams at every school?
Of course you don't.
So what is it then?
Are you simply having a knee-jerk reaction to what you see as liberal rhetoric and Democratic party tag lines (diminishing civil liberties)?

Or are you simply being disingenuous and argumentative for the hell of it?

I happen to enjoy being able to walk down the street without passing heavily armed soldiers asking for my ID "for my own protection" and am willing to accept that sometimes bad things do happen, and sometimes people with guns go crazy and shoot people.
The odds of getting shot (which are incredibly small, and smaller than they have ever been in the history of this country) is not enough of a reason to me to give the federal government (which is already too large, disastrously mismanaged and too powerful) the OK to position thousands of battle-ready teams of soldiers all over the country.

I'm not a scared little puppy, wanting big brother to protect me from all the boogey men at the expense of my own liberty (relative liberty, I fully admit, before you jump on your old-tired warhorse about what freedom is).

 

[Baron Max]

...and am willing to accept that sometimes bad things do happen, and sometimes people with guns go crazy and shoot people.

But you have to understand that others might not be so willing to accept it as you are. ...and apparently they aren't. Yet you denigrate them for their views because it's different to your own view.

The odds of getting shot (which are incredibly small, and smaller than they have ever been in the history of this country) ...

All that says is that you're willing to gamble with my life and the lives of others so that you can feel "free", right? But others don't seem to be gamblers as much as you, so....?

I'm not a scared little puppy, wanting big brother to protect me from all the boogey men at the expense of my own liberty ....

But some people are too scared and want that protection. So.....should what you want take precedent over what they want?

So are you saying you agree with Sam and there should be SWAT teams at every school?

Oh, no, of course not. What I think is that everyone should have a cop handcuffed to them all the time, 24-hours a day ...not only to protect them, but to keep them from doing anything to others.

Freedom is the ability to kill others any time one wants to do so. The more people one can kill before someone stops you is directly proportional to the degree of freedom that one has.

Baron Max