Deadly shooting at US university

Opening range means he has more firing options, the closer you are the more limited they become, until, mostly he has one choice of where to fire. You can intercept his attack and disable him if you're smart.
 
There's nothing anyone can do to stop a mentally ill person from carrying out a bloodbath. The only way to decrease the incidence is to convince the media to stop playing the events to the absolute hilt (yeah, right, never happen) so that other people on the edge don't get the idea. It would also be nice if someone who knew this young man had some kind of clue about what could happen and let somebody know about it.

Given the easy availability of automatic weapons and ammo, this sort of thing will continue to happen. Time was a guy might show up with a 38 special and maybe manage to kill one or two people before somebody stomped his guts out while he was reloading. Now you can set yourself up Matrix-style and keep killing until you either run out of victims or the cops stop you.

Sick people + highpowered weapons + open society = repeated mass murders
 
Just NOW heard about this. I sleep late obviously. When I think of one person then 2 then 3 then 4 it is a staggering and sickeningly high death toll. Unbelievable. Virginia is a concealed carry state so anyone can walk in armed. I hate when they kill themselves. There's no closure. If shootings like this have to happen why not at fundamentalist colleges or white power camps? Truly a stunning crime.
 
I keep wondering what would have happened if everyone on campus carried a loaded gun and knew how to use it? Of all of the students, one surely would have had a good shot ...before the crazed gunman killed all those people.

Maybe instead of banning guns, we should force everyone to carry a gun for their own protection ...and train them to use it properly.

Baron Max
 
Genji said:
Just NOW heard about this. I sleep late obviously. When I think of one person then 2 then 3 then 4 it is a staggering and sickeningly high death toll. Unbelievable. Virginia is a concealed carry state so anyone can walk in armed. I hate when they kill themselves. There's no closure. If shootings like this have to happen why not at fundamentalist colleges or white power camps? Truly a stunning crime.
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yep, he could have carried out his plan at that oral roberts university.

He could have strapped a ton of tnt to his body and blown up the whole campus. he he, death to morons.
 
posted by darksidZz:

All you've gotta do is keep something in their line of fire, a garbage can lid or something... or sneak up on them.. or throw something.. the guns dropped and you can beat them up.

It's like the shield of the 21st century! Why aren't armies equipped with garbage can lids? It would surely halt high-speed projectiles like bullets! The statement about range was also as sensible. Let's go target shooting sometime. Bring your trash can armor.
 
Baron Max said:
I keep wondering what would have happened if everyone on campus carried a loaded gun and knew how to use it? Of all of the students, one surely would have had a good shot ...before the crazed gunman killed all those people.

Maybe instead of banning guns, we should force everyone to carry a gun for their own protection ...and train them to use it properly.

Baron Max
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You've gotta be kidding me?! If they did that there'd be even more shootings, anyone that thinks "hey, that guys a prick, let me kill'm" would find themselves loading a weapon and opening fire.
 
darksidZz said:
The cell phone footage shows what the students actually experienced during that time. It was basically bangs and noise... nothing majorly terrible. This guy would've had to be an excellent shot to hit anyone that wasn't nearby. So this means basically whoever did see him either wondered what it was he had in his hand then went to take a closer look, or that he was just walking around concealing his weapon. I just think there's a certain hilarity about stuck up rich snobs walking around ignoring everybody and thinking "I'm going to graduate and make lots of money" only to later realize their circumstances were never in full control by them alone.

You walkin down the campus, it's nice and good, people all around, they think they're so smart... then bam.
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So you enjoy the fact that everyone who isn't 20 something year old virgin working at a dead end FedEx job, who might have a future ahead of them with financial success in it, is getting shot?

I have a poll for you. Darksiddz: Insensitive Asshole or Jealous Prick?
 
darksidZz said:
Opening range means he has more firing options, the closer you are the more limited they become, until, mostly he has one choice of where to fire. You can intercept his attack and disable him if you're smart.
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Yeah, good luck with that, armchair commando. You're delusional if you think that garbage can lid is going to protect you from small-arms fire. You're not entirely useless though: your comments always give me a hearty laugh...
 
Baron Max said:
I keep wondering what would have happened if everyone on campus carried a loaded gun and knew how to use it? Of all of the students, one surely would have had a good shot ...before the crazed gunman killed all those people.

Maybe instead of banning guns, we should force everyone to carry a gun for their own protection ...and train them to use it properly.

Baron Max
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Errmm ok. I would imagine the confusion and everyone drawing their guns and shooting who they thought might have been the shooter would probably result in a higher death toll.

What I keep wondering is why the gunman killed two people in a dorm and then two hours later killed the rest on the other side of the campus. Why did the university think he had merely left the campus grounds? Why did they not evacuate the campus when the first shooting occured or at least have them in lockdown from then? In short, what in the hell was the university thinking in allowing students to roam the grounds after the first shooting (in the dorm) without any knowledge of who had killed the two in the dorm or where he had actually gone afterwards. In hindsight we now know where he went.. he went to the other side of the campus and killed 30 more people two hours later. But why were the 30 people there in a classroom and not off the campus or in their dorms in a proper shut down procedure that might have ensured less deaths? Most had no idea what had even happened. There was no announcement made. That school should have been in lockdown when the dorm shootings occured. The result might have been a smaller deathtoll. What in the world were they thinking?
 
This is almost as many people dead as "rogue" American and British soldiers have deliberately massacred this year alone.

Let's see you wring your hands over that. :(
 
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