Deadly shooting at US university

Not everything. Just mental illnesses. Throw specialized clinics in there and you have the 3 best ways to deal with the mentally unstable. Hugs and kisses can't cure everything Sam and the sooner you realize that the sooner you'll understand why clinics and meds are important.

That explains why university students in India are shooting down their professors and students
 
Killing 30=Worse than killing one.

Killing one=Bad
Killing 30=Worse.

Idiot, that is not worse because one person was someone's child, brother, sister, etc and it affects them. You make it sound like it's a game.

According to your "inhumane" logic, the suffering of one is not as important as the suffering of others.

You need to have your head examined.
 
ok moron use your brain.

Would Jewish people rather have I jew killed in the holocaust, or millions?

one, duh. Of course the suffering of one is less than the suffering of multiple. I bet if we could ask them, almost all of the VT kids would rather just they die than the other 31. While one dying is horrible, many dying is MORE horrible.
 
ok moron use your brain.

Would Jewish people rather have I jew killed in the holocaust, or millions?

one, duh. Of course the suffering of one is less than the suffering of multiple. I bet if we could ask them, almost all of the VT kids would rather just they die than the other 31. While one dying is horrible, many dying is MORE horrible.

Hmm so if they picked you to die, you'd willingly agree?
How about if they picked a member of your family? Sophie's choice?
 
That explains why university students in India are shooting down their professors and students

It is weird to see someone accuse me of treating those different than me with improper feelings and actions, while they hail from a country with people literally labeled "untouchables"

Shootings happen every day in india just like they do in america. But the true reason for the sheer number @ VT is the Universitys inability to lockdown properly. It was a breakdown in procedure and it could happen at an Indian university just like it did here.
 
Hmm so if they picked you to die, you'd willingly agree?
How about if they picked a member of your family? Sophie's choice?

I cannot truely answer that because it is a decison you can't really know the answer you'd give until it was posed to you.
 
It is weird to see someone accuse me of treating those different than me with improper feelings and actions, while they hail from a country with people literally labeled "untouchables"

Straw man. Or are you saying that Americans are uneducated and poor?

Shootings happen every day in india just like they do in america. But the true reason for the sheer number @ VT is the Universitys inability to lockdown properly. It was a breakdown in procedure and it could happen at an Indian university just like it did here.

Its not the first school shooting, and a student shooting other students is not a normal occurrence.

http://commentisfree.guardian.co.uk/jon_ronson/2007/04/school_shootings.html
 
I know. it is a rare occurence in BOTH places but it still can happen in either. Random shootings however are not rarities and both India and the US have them daily.
 
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Its not the cost of medications, its the cost of personal involvement that is more significant

What bullshit statistics. You're really a master at that, and I have to call you out on it all the time.:mad:

1. India's poor. Most the people can't afford to get rid of the worms and cholera in their asses that make them shit constantly. Unlikely they're going to spend 75$/hour to sit on a couch and talk about their feelings.
2. A billion people, and they sampled them all how? Especially in a country with poor transportation and lots of uneducated, illiterate yokels in inaccessible regions.
 
What bullshit statistics. You're really a master at that, and I have to call you out on it all the time.:mad:

1. India's poor. Most the people can't afford to get rid of the worms and cholera in their asses that make them shit constantly. Unlikely they're going to spend 75$/hour to sit on a couch and talk about their feelings.
2. A billion people, and they sampled them all how? Especially in a country with poor transportation and lots of uneducated, illiterate yokels in inaccessible regions.

You can look up the original studies. Yours was the exact reaction that most of the English and American doctors gave, before they repeated the studies and got the same results. Its not even new stuff, its been known since the 70s.

http://www.who.int/mental_health/management/schizophrenia/en/
 
samcdkey 69 beds for 100,000 people in the U.S. and 3 bed for 100,000 people in India, how many people in India are living with acute psychosis in India, I don't even think that anyone knows that number, so how can any comparison be made between the U.S. and India or any third world country, as they don't even keep records of the mentally disturbed people, India doesn't have a full accounting of the disturbed in your country.
 
http://www.who.int/mediacentre/news/releases/2006/pr53/en/index.html

"More than 90% of all cases of suicide are associated with mental disorders such as depression, schizophrenia and alcoholism", notes Dr Benedetto Saraceno, Director of the Department of Mental Health for WHO, "Therefore, reducing the global suicide rate means effectively addressing the serious and growing burden of mental illness around the world."

At any time, 450 million people worldwide are affected by mental, neurological or behavioral problems, and the rate is steadily rising. In spite of existing knowledge about effective treatments for most psychiatric disorders, huge gaps in treatment and resources exist. For example, a recent WHO study in 14 countries showed that, in developing countries, between 76 to 85% of serious cases of mental illness did not receive any treatment within the prior year. Furthermore, data from the WHO Mental Health Atlas 2005 show a tremendous human resource gap in the developing regions of the world.
 
samcdkey 69 beds for 100,000 people in the U.S. and 3 bed for 100,000 people in India, how many people in India are living with acute psychosis in India, I don't even think that anyone knows that number, so how can any comparison be made between the U.S. and India or any third world country, as they don't even keep records of the mentally disturbed people, India doesn't have a full accounting of the disturbed in your country.

Perhaps the doctors who conduct the studies have no idea what they are doing. You might want to go teach them their jobs.
 
According to your "inhumane" logic, the suffering of one is not as important as the suffering of others.

peta9,

This is the logic of utilitarianism.

That the suffering of the many outweighs the suffering of a few.

Its the philosophy which nations like the U.S. are built on. It has justified the sacrifice of people in countless wars and is a powerful tool of the capitalist/ruling class. It actually has its roots in Plato's writings - see 'The Republic' in particular - this is really the founding document of Western civilization.

It always ends up as a 'numbers game'. The next student to go on a rampage will be trying to top Cho's 'record' of 32 dead. Americans will be glued to their TV sets professing mock shock but secretly desiring that that the old record is broken and the new man ups the ante.

You can sense in the media this grim stage being set for the next massacre. Maybe next time he'll film the slaughter or Webcam it live?

Whey-hey!
 
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Its interesting to see the microcosm of American mentality played out in this thread.
 
The mentality is the same everywhere....it is how they are expressed in language that differs....
 
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