I never claimed anything.
Really?
On page one, you were claiming biological weapon, "genetically manipulated" and "artificial":
Then perhaps you could have suggested as such in your post. I agree. However the global response has been considerably more extreme than any previous pandemic I have witnessed in the past. Even the Ebola crisis in Africa didn't solicit such an extreme response. Perhaps there are factors in this coronavirus that we are no privy to.
- The potential to mutate for example may have been detected.
- There may also be investigations under way to determine if a bio weapon has been deployed.
- They may be attempting to discover whether a common virus has been genetically manipulated. Gene editing can be such a perverse science after all especially in the hands of those seeking revenge against the Chinese Government and national military/civilian homogeneity. There are a number of actions perpetrated by the Chinese Government in recent times that could solicit retaliatory actions by extremist groups.
All the facts tend to suspicion that the current coronavirus may be artificial and the global response so far also tends to validate that suspicion. This virus, it's future mutations etc may not by naturally typical. The global community seems to consider it a much greater risk than the common flu.
Questioned why it was targeting ethnic Chinese only (when it was not) and used the words "genetically specific" [*chortle*]:
Also please explain why this virus appears to be genetically specific and targeted to Chinese ethnicity only?
Shoot to kill orders without any proof whatsoever:
and shoot to kill orders in China for those hiding from authorities?
That was just from page one.
On page two, you start with the 'airborne' claims:
Reports of the virus being air borne by Chinese authorities came in a few days ago ( possible mutation)... yet to be confirmed.
One link among many:
re:
https://www.sbs.com.au/news/conflic...ial-reportedly-claims-coronavirus-is-airborne
So just washing your hands would be insufficient alone...if this were to be confirmed and so would many currently in place quarantine protocols...
Personally I think this is going to be proved incorrect as we would be seeing a massive surge in illness in China and Globally and we apparently are not.
The 14 day incubation period may have something to do with it assuming that the incubation period still holds for the mutation if any.
Billvon responded to you with more patience than you deserve:
No, it's not a mutation. That's how it works, the same way most such viruses work. From the CDC a week ago:
"Person-to-person spread is thought to occur mainly via respiratory droplets produced when an infected person coughs or sneezes, similar to how influenza and other respiratory pathogens spread. These droplets can land in the mouths or noses of people who are nearby or possibly be inhaled into the lungs."
You respond by clearly demonstrating a complete lack of reading and comprehension and again reposting the claims that it is "airborne":
Perhaps you don't know about the difference between "direct/contact"and "aerosol" transmission...?
From the link I quoted (10th-02--2020):
Authorities previously believed the coronavirus could only be passed on through two ways; direct or contact transmission.
Direct transmission occurs when an individual breathes in the air of an infected patient, while contact transmission requires one to touch an object carrying the virus and then touch their own mouth, nose or eyes.
But The China Daily has reported Shanghai Civil Affairs Bureau deputy head Zeng Qun as confirming the coronavirus can be spread through the air.
src:
https://www.sbs.com.au/news/conflic...ial-reportedly-claims-coronavirus-is-airborne
As no doubt you are aware the Chinese Government is notorious for it's censorship of bad news.
You made various comments, posed as questions because that's what trolls do, about it being airborne.
By page three, you went back to misrepresenting what people had said and then spectacularly attempting to deny your panic driven scaremongering xenophobic claims earlier in the thread, basically outing yourself as a liar:
as usual I need to ask you to check the context of the post you are commenting on...
It was part of a discussion with Billvon where he indicated that the Coronavirus, now officially named by the WHO as COVID-19, as being less serious than the flu. My post was only seeking him to explain his position.
That is the crappy aspect about the integrity of this forums posting where by any post can be taken deliberately out of context and used to flame and defame someone...
Suggestion: Read the thread and note the discussions going on before taking posts out of context because they fit some sort of agenda.
At least you are not letting your fear of this bug contaminate your objectivity too much. Unlike other posters here.
I could go on, but you get my drift.
Please show us all where I have claimed that the virus is airborne...
Already done so.
Stop lying and stop trolling.
lol..
So your accusation that I claimed something can not be proven and you have the audacity to accuse me of confusion.... lol
sigh!
The article made the claim. I just simply posted the link and quoted from it...
and you are still very confused about the difference between direct and aerosol transmission.
Why is that?
You posted the link and then through a series of posts, argued about how effective quarantine measures could be if it is airborne. My favourite line was when you dialed it up a bit more and asked:
and so how would that impact on the current quarantine protocols in place.
I do not need to have medical training to know that the existing Q regime would be totally ineffective.
Imagine what would have happened a few years ago in Africa if the Ebola Virus had become airborne?!!
That, by the way, was your response to Billvon correctly responding to your claims and questions about how the response would be if it was "airborne"..
Frankly, the fact that you are trying to deny your own arguments in this thread shows that you are dishonest.
This is not new behaviour from you. We have been here before, numerous times.
so you admit you are confused.... ok...
Stop trolling and lying.
I only "think" what I "think"about this situation based on published stats and media reports.
so based on what is available,
The COVID-19 is currently believed to be transmitted only by direct contact.
therefore:
The COVID-19 is currently believed NOT to be transmitted by aerosol transmission.
However there have been unconfirmed reports from Chinese authorities that it may be by aerosol transmission.
Now given that the spread of this illness has appeared to be reducing according to stats provided by the Chinese government the notion of aerosol transmission is most likely invalid.
It is worth noting that Chinese Authority provided data is considered to be unreliable, because they them selves do not know due to the sheer scale of the disaster.
Therefore at this stage all data, beliefs etc can not be seen as being totally credible due to the lacking of precise information.
My personal position is, if I had to take one, is that I do not know.
Then maybe you should stop carrying on like you are an expert. Given your complete inability to even use google (go back and look at your demands for proof that non 'ethnic Chinese' had contracted the disease as a prime example), perhaps, just perhaps, you should refrain from trolling and lying when people actually provide you with the correct information.
and you can provide evidence that what you claim is founded?
please do so...
defaming the CDC destroys it's credibility... you do realise this don't you...
Stop trolling.
