Christian debate tactics
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Proud_Muslim said:You forgot to add one thing:
When they are cornered and have no answers, they turn to you and say: JESUS LOVES YOU !!!
That is a lot more preferable to cornered Muslims who turn to you and say: ASSHOLE! YOU ARE AN IDIOT! YOU ARE A LIAR! YOU ARE A FASCIST! YOU ARE IGNORANT! YOU CANT SPEAK ARABIC! YOU ARE A HATER! BLAH BLAH BLAH.
Proud_Muslim said:You forgot to add one thing:
When they are cornered and have no answers, they turn to you and say: JESUS LOVES YOU !!!
That's a bit better than "Well, you Christians are idiots who have no idea what they're talking about!" though, don't you think?
-Ocelot
DoctorNO said:
Haha, dude we just thought like the same thing lol
I love it when retards fight each other.
It’s like Iraq: one moron killing the other and cleansing the world from the stench.
Now if only we can get them from reproducing so fast, what a wonderful world this would be?
What no debate on issues?
Afraid of following the script, as scripture, and proving me right huh?
I understand.
Now wrestle over whose god is the ‘true’ one.
This if fun.
It’s like Iraq: one moron killing the other and cleansing the world from the stench.
Now if only we can get them from reproducing so fast, what a wonderful world this would be?
What no debate on issues?
Afraid of following the script, as scripture, and proving me right huh?
I understand.
Now wrestle over whose god is the ‘true’ one.
This if fun.
yeah and some people swear that crystals have healing powers..Paula said:
...some also believe in touch healing,etc,etc
www.randi.org
if the power of prayer is so great,why use medication at all?
would you have any links to these "studies"?or is it just hearsay?
Q25,
I read it in the newspaper a few weeks ago. Of course you may feel free to assume I am a liar because four weeks ago when I was not a member of this forum I did not think to cut out a news clipping, scan it and e-mail it to you, but it was more of a sidenote than anything. If medications are so great, why does prayer help at all? Several studies have been done on the issue, even the New England Medical Journal and Newsweek have had articles on the topic over the last year or so.
My guess is that we have more than one tool at our disposal to help us heal oour minds, bodies and souls.
I read it in the newspaper a few weeks ago. Of course you may feel free to assume I am a liar because four weeks ago when I was not a member of this forum I did not think to cut out a news clipping, scan it and e-mail it to you, but it was more of a sidenote than anything. If medications are so great, why does prayer help at all? Several studies have been done on the issue, even the New England Medical Journal and Newsweek have had articles on the topic over the last year or so.
My guess is that we have more than one tool at our disposal to help us heal oour minds, bodies and souls.
Bells
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Are you trying to make a point?Proud_Muslim said:I wish you can speak 1% Arabic what I speak in English !!
And you're such a trend-setter.DoctorNO said:
Unfortunately a stench will continue to remain (aside from the stench of rotting corpses that is) and that stench will probably be the 'winning' side.WANDERER said:
There is no 'true' God. I flushed that a couple of hours ago. God is probably undergoing treatment at the treatment plant as I type.
Because they need to have all bases covered.... incase God is busy clipping his/her/its toenails when the prayers go out to make little Jimmy beat that persistant case of herpes.Q25 said:
I'm no more fond of rigid interpretations than you are. But there's a difference between interpreting and contradicting, and interpreting our new lives as reincarnation contradicts our being "dead to this life". A life that can be/was/is reincarnated is one still bound to sin, and that hasn't been born again, because it is still perishable
1 Peter 1:23 For you have been born again, not of perishable seed, but of imperishable, through the living and enduring word of God.
Bells,
But that's the thing though, how do you know that there is a form of purgatory or punishment after death? We live our lives in a common manner because we know that there is accountability, not in the religious context, but in the legal and social context.
How do you know anything?
Would you want to give birth to a child that is going to be shot in a drive-by?
No?
Would you not have any children in order to avoid this happening?
No?
You think there is a chance this won't happen?
Do you KNOW that it won't happen?
No?
So you are gambling with your potentialy unborn childs life?
My point is there are things you do not know, but you hope that things turn out fine. Logic and probabilities are only tools which help to develop this hope, they are by no means absolutes. Anything can happen at anytime.
Why do you need to understand it?
Why would you give birth to a child, knowing that at some stage the child is going to be destroyed? Are you that calious and selfish? Or is there something more to it, which needs no understanding?
My advise, try and understand what you can.
Are you so insecure that you need to be assured at every step of the way?
Is it that you are sure about everything in the world, except God, or are there other things you are unsure of?
Is everything you do, say, feel, think, dream, hope, eat, drink, shag, based on logical rational reasoning, why you pick this one subject as questionable.
The basis of all religions is God. You read the Bible, the Koran, or the Vedas, the centre is God. The veiw of religion you are portraying, is someones idea of religion.
That is because it is distributed according to time, place and circumstance. The essence of all religious text is ONE.
That's fine. God is Great, haven't you heard.
Every belief system or universal ideal, has blind followers, but there are also followers who can see clearly. Why do you focus only on the blind?
Do you think every single human who follows some religious code is blind to reality?
What would be sufficient proof of evidence that a trancendental, purely spriritual, omnicient and omnipotent being exists? What exactly would you expect to see with your eyes?
Why would you rather BELIEVE in something, that is aparently real? Aren't you sure they exist?
There is absolutely no question of "no religion in the world". As long as there are human beings their will always be religion. What happens is that "religion" becomes "irreligion" but it is not the same as "no religion."
Jan Ardena.
But that's the thing though, how do you know that there is a form of purgatory or punishment after death? We live our lives in a common manner because we know that there is accountability, not in the religious context, but in the legal and social context.
How do you know anything?
Would you want to give birth to a child that is going to be shot in a drive-by?
No?
Would you not have any children in order to avoid this happening?
No?
You think there is a chance this won't happen?
Do you KNOW that it won't happen?
No?
So you are gambling with your potentialy unborn childs life?
My point is there are things you do not know, but you hope that things turn out fine. Logic and probabilities are only tools which help to develop this hope, they are by no means absolutes. Anything can happen at anytime.
Why do you need to understand it?
Why would you give birth to a child, knowing that at some stage the child is going to be destroyed? Are you that calious and selfish? Or is there something more to it, which needs no understanding?
My advise, try and understand what you can.
Are you so insecure that you need to be assured at every step of the way?
Is it that you are sure about everything in the world, except God, or are there other things you are unsure of?
Is everything you do, say, feel, think, dream, hope, eat, drink, shag, based on logical rational reasoning, why you pick this one subject as questionable.
The basis of all religions is God. You read the Bible, the Koran, or the Vedas, the centre is God. The veiw of religion you are portraying, is someones idea of religion.
That is because it is distributed according to time, place and circumstance. The essence of all religious text is ONE.
That's fine. God is Great, haven't you heard.
Every belief system or universal ideal, has blind followers, but there are also followers who can see clearly. Why do you focus only on the blind?
Do you think every single human who follows some religious code is blind to reality?
What would be sufficient proof of evidence that a trancendental, purely spriritual, omnicient and omnipotent being exists? What exactly would you expect to see with your eyes?
Why would you rather BELIEVE in something, that is aparently real? Aren't you sure they exist?
There is absolutely no question of "no religion in the world". As long as there are human beings their will always be religion. What happens is that "religion" becomes "irreligion" but it is not the same as "no religion."
Jan Ardena.
How would religious people explain this.
When I was little, I WANTED to believe in God. I didn't want to think that death was it, that it was the end. I wanted to believe, but I couldn't. I didn't seem to have the capacity to shut off all those nagging little questions.
As a child I did all I could to 'invite God into my heart' but he just wouldn't stick, and he went the same way as Santa and the fairies.
Surely if there was a God, he would not have made me with an inability to believe in him? And yet that is what I have.
When I was little, I WANTED to believe in God. I didn't want to think that death was it, that it was the end. I wanted to believe, but I couldn't. I didn't seem to have the capacity to shut off all those nagging little questions.
As a child I did all I could to 'invite God into my heart' but he just wouldn't stick, and he went the same way as Santa and the fairies.
Surely if there was a God, he would not have made me with an inability to believe in him? And yet that is what I have.
How much did your belief rely on those nagging questions being answered? You tried to believe in an answer to those questions, and couldn't. God doesn't make all your questions go away. And if they were quesitons about Him, they certainly won't be answered by moving away from Him.
What makes God "stick" is living the way He wants you. The answers come like anything in life: slowly and with effort.
What makes God "stick" is living the way He wants you. The answers come like anything in life: slowly and with effort.
But I live by Christian morals. I'm kind to strangers, love my family etc. Yet I still don't believe in God.
My lack of belief comes before my justifications for it, just as your faith comes before all justifications. It's very much like a switch.
My God switch is in the OFF position.
Science can explain us having a God switch, and can explain yours being turned ON.
But religion can't explain mine being turned OFF.
My lack of belief comes before my justifications for it, just as your faith comes before all justifications. It's very much like a switch.
My God switch is in the OFF position.
Science can explain us having a God switch, and can explain yours being turned ON.
But religion can't explain mine being turned OFF.
Hmm... maybe because science invented the "God switch", with its default position turned OFF. You can't turn it on without God, otherwise it would not have been a "God" switch, would it?
Maybe what you don't believe is what you're not willing to receive?
Maybe what you don't believe is what you're not willing to receive?