So you keep asserting. While totally avoiding dealing directly with the substance of my critique. Let us know when YOU can offer an actual answer to the first (foreign lipid bilayer engulfed) cell dilemma. Of course you can't.
I believe Robert Hazen demonstrated how easy it is to create self-organizing cellular objects .
Then stop with your religious drivel and pay attention to what has been presented in peer reviewed papers on evolutionary processes and is accepted "theory".
You are as usual totally confused. All he showed was examples of spherical lipid enclosures, and where with violent turbulence, you can have such enclosures within other enclosures.
You lie. My criticisms are not driven by religion. I have none as you are well aware. And need I remind you - there is no theory of unguided abiogenesis. Why do you keep forgetting such basic matters?
No I can't. but plenty of reputable people, most of which you conveniently ignore, in favour of someone who is foolish enough to take the bible literally and forfill your own personal ID needs.
Yes, about time, including your misplaced adoration for Tour.
Facts dispute your nonsense. You have expressed your IDer fairy tales [whatever crazy form that takes in your brain] since you pretended to critique favourably the words of someone who by his own words, would dismiss any evidence for a Abiogenesis methodology.
up against?
That is the definition of evolutionary abiogenesis.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abiogenesis
You mean you do not believe in ID? Seems to me , you lie!
And need I remind you, there is no theory of Intelligently Guided Abiogenesis. Again seems to me you lie.
I have misspelled lately? Point to it. You are likely confusing me with Write4U's bad misspelling of Tour in an earlier thread. OTOH you not only misspelled fulfill (your 'forfill' highlighted in red), but keep inappropriately using 'methodology':
Careful. I have no affiliation with or follow any known organized religion. That makes me non-religious. I do believe in God. If that makes me religious it's quite a stretch. Bare theism then. Let me know where the nearest 'temple of bare theism' is.
An error corrected is no longer an error. Learn mathematics. Moreover it is not an argument, but an ad hominem.
And it seem you seem woefully intellectually unequipped to grasp the enormity of the Universal natural resources you are dealing with.
Pointing out you made a mess of Tour's easily spelt name is an ad hominem? You are way too sensitive.
No. But it seems increasingly clear you adhere to some form of pantheism. 'God potential' is everywhere in your mind. You would be at home with that viewpoint in Japan.
Religion
Even there no scientific norm can be applied. You don't even know what you believe in!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion
No , you do not understand the definition of ad hominem.
No, I like the logic of Tegmark's Mathematical universe. It's the only philosophically neutral hypothesis that explains the observable order by which the universal properties can be demonstrated and falsified.
Questionnaires often ask ones religion, or to choose from a list. I enter 'none'. Which is correct. Now, unless something new is on the table re 'chemical evolution', time to end this thread.
Or you are just an overly pedantic prick. I'll go with that.
There you go.... let the real Q-reeus stand up and introduce himself and then disappear.
Isn't that applied abiogenesis?
Picked you up for misspelling? Where? I'll leave such pedant up to you. And I'll stick to methodologies thank you. Let's see, from a warm murky pool and lightening? From an under sea/Ocean vent? Panspermia?
Obviously wrong. It has and did. Abiogenesis is the only scientific means by which this can be achieved.
So, start a thread on this belief, and don't forget the methodologies and reasons of this exclusively made up God that threatens the rest of the made up varieties of God that supposedly exist, and how your fairy tale myth is better then the others.
It'll end with science, not mythical claims and the continued adoration and fanatical support of Tour and Behe.
You'll have to talk to q-reeus about that, in another thread he is going to start, to discuss his own personal myth.About methodology
Any word on the methodology of the ID'er?
What is
up against?
Has "massaged handfull of mud" been updated?
Both of whose religious convictions essentially align with that of your missus. The one you are so proud of. As long as she keeps her mouth shut and never shares her beliefs. Otherwise, making her a fanatic god botherer. Interesting restriction that.