Capacitor to store lightning?

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... There's very little real exchange of information here, except of course for the detailed schematics that some people have been asking for....
Nonsense. You have been given lots of information repeatily, but are incapable of learning.

As far as your schematics is concern ONLY you think someone want to see them.

I and several others have specifically said we are not interested in seeing your schematics as they are only diagrams on paper which do not show any understanding of the real world problems.

For example your repeated claims that you can reconnect capacitors to make 100s of millions (some time you say billions) of volts with no realization that your have a serious arc breakdown problem in the real world even it it looks good on your paper schematics.
 
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Wow...talk about delusions of grandeur. "Will find the world beating a path to his door"....."make the DOE update its' list of renewable energy resources"...."the death and injury rate will see a significant drop". Give me a break.

The technology to build your device has been around for decades...yet you believe your the first person to think of this?
 
Nonsense. You have been given lots of information repeatily, but are incapable of learning.

I could say the same for a lot of other posters on this board. I have REPEATEDLY said that the 100GV figure is only the result of a theoretical re-wiring of millions of HV caps. I have no plans whatsoever to do the re-wiring BECAUSE I HAVE NO NEED FOR 100GV OF POTENTIAL.

When I actually get around to charging up my caps, I will likely use a modified current/voltage divider. Each cap would be discharged one at a time and dedicated to one of two uses, either turning DC into 120v AC via a high-wattage inverter, or else, the voltage from each cap, ONE AT A TIME, would be stepped down, via some circuitry I won't mention here, to the tiny voltage level I will need to turn water into hydrogen and oxygen. All this has been said over and over and over AND OVER !!

By the way, I have also said over and over and over AND OVER AGAIN that no decision will be made about buying ANY electrical equipment or about buying/leasing any land until after the patent office has decided whether my application is good enough. I put my horses IN FRONT of my carts, if you please.

I'm really getting tired of repeating myself for the benefit of people who are incapable of learning anything I teach them about my principles, my practices, and my goals. LEARN WHAT I TEACH YOU OR BEAT IT.:mad:

Benny F, an admirer of Mr. Franklin
 
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This will be my last post for awhile. I really hate the open contempt I've seen from people I used to converse with on scientific subjects, but the conversations have, all too often, turned into mud-slinging contests, with most of the mud being thrown at me.

I didn't happen to mention my other possible patent recently, so I'll do so now. There is another piece of technology I'm aware of, one that can very easily charge one or more capacitors with part of the energy of a single lightning bolt. All the energy over a pre-set limit would be diverted away from the cap(s). Using this technology, which uses an adjustable voltage limit, a person could charge a cap up to its' voltage rating. Two or more caps in series would simply require an adjustment in the diversion technology, which I will not describe because it may be patentable.

No, the "adjustable voltage" equipment IS NOT a potentiometer.


Now that I have informed all of you about the current state of my plans and my patent application, I expect all of you to remember it so that repeating myself will no longer be necessary.:mad:
 
OK, so Benny is having a meltdown. Benny, we all know what you think are you are going to patent, we don't have a memory problem, and don't need to be told twice, unlike you, who have repeatedly been told your ideas don't hold water (let alone charge).

Simply Benny, you cannot catch lightning in a box.
 
This will be my last post for awhile. I really hate the open contempt I've seen from people I used to converse with on scientific subjects, but the conversations have, all too often, turned into mud-slinging contests, with most of the mud being thrown at me.

I didn't happen to mention my other possible patent recently, so I'll do so now. There is another piece of technology I'm aware of, one that can very easily charge one or more capacitors with part of the energy of a single lightning bolt. All the energy over a pre-set limit would be diverted away from the cap(s). Using this technology, which uses an adjustable voltage limit, a person could charge a cap up to its' voltage rating. Two or more caps in series would simply require an adjustment in the diversion technology, which I will not describe because it may be patentable.

No, the "adjustable voltage" equipment IS NOT a potentiometer.


Now that I have informed all of you about the current state of my plans and my patent application, I expect all of you to remember it so that repeating myself will no longer be necessary.:mad:

Your a fucking woo..and deserve to be treated as such...you discount everything that everyone says to you, and consider yourself to be some grand savior of civilization. Haul your ass and never come back...this forum will not miss you. Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.
 
Your a fucking woo..and deserve to be treated as such...you discount everything that everyone says to you, and consider yourself to be some grand savior of civilization. Haul your ass and never come back...this forum will not miss you. Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.

You're a fucking woo, too. Every time I announce that 100GV of potential is only a theoretical result of rewiring millions of HV caps, somebody with a memory problem thinks I need to reinvent the original lightning bolt.

I don't, and too many of you can't remember from one day to the next the simple fact that these caps will all be discharged ONE AT A DAMN TIME, while still wired into the original current/voltage divider, for one of two purposes - 120v AC for my office, or one-and-a-quarter volts for water electrolysis. Try remembering these simple facts and I'll be much more willing to show you the kind of respect that you ask of me.

By the way, don't listen to the buzz of the Philo-mosquitos. They're just angry because they're jealous of anybody who has a chance at a real US Patent.

Benny
 
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... we don't have a memory problem, and don't need to be told twice....

EXCUSE ME, BUT I HAVE TOLD YOU THIS AT LEAST THREE TIMES, AND STILL SOME OF YOU HAVEN'T LEARNED YET, BECAUSE YOU'RE INCAPABLE OF LEARNING IT.

From now on, anyone who says that I want to rewire millions of caps in series to obtain 100GV of potential has either a memory problem or a learning disability. FOR THE LAST TIME, it's only a theoretical result, whose calculations were performed strictly for the sake of showing the true capabilities of a current/voltage divider.

FOR THE LAST TIME, the electricity from each HV cap will be discharged one at a time from caps that are STILL IN THE ORIGINAL CURRENT/VOLTAGE DIVIDER.
 
EXCUSE ME, BUT I HAVE TOLD YOU THIS AT LEAST THREE TIMES, AND STILL SOME OF YOU HAVEN'T LEARNED YET, BECAUSE YOU'RE INCAPABLE OF LEARNING IT.
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Benny, you're losing the plot man. I didn't say that was what you were attempting, did I?

I understand what you are trying to achieve Benny, but seriously think you have flaws, and misconceptions.

Hell, when you joined this thread you wouldnt accept that a capacitor blocks DC current. I still think that your design is flawed, because you haven't answered how you intend to charge your capacitors, nor encourage the lightning to strike your aparatus.

Oh, and living in the UK, I don't give a rat's ass if you get a US patent, Benny, especially as I linked to some patently ludicrous ideas granted them.
 
... 100GV is only a mathematical result of a theoretical rewiring of millions of caps.... {many knowlegable poster's} absolute conviction that I can't do what I've said I can do. This is arrogance bordering on absolute stupidity.
... anyone who says that I want to rewire millions of caps in series to obtain 100GV of potential has either a memory problem or a learning disability. FOR THE LAST TIME, it's only a theoretical result, ... the electricity from each HV cap will be discharged one at a time from caps that are STILL IN THE ORIGINAL CURRENT/VOLTAGE DIVIDER.
Speaking of memory problems, here are a few YOUR posts stating exactly the opposite of what you are now claiming:

Post 35: “I know how to "multiply voltage", I mean that if a lightning bolt has, say, 300 Kv, the equipment I'll use will be capable of storing tens of billions of volts.” That's what will drive the economics of my business heavily in my favor. The equipment is a one-time cost, and the cost of the labor, including all the office staff, should be far less than the money I'll be able to bring in by selling the hydrogen and the oxygen.

Post 36: “Anybody who can generate hundreds of millions of DC voltage from a single lightning bolt and who can store TENS OF BILLIONS of voltage can certainly spare some of it for a DC-AC inverter and disconnect his whole office from his local electric grid. …
only real problems I see are
obtaining all the federal, state, and local government permits to set up and use
the equipment and obtaining enough money to pay the employees, buy the land, and pay for the equipment that can and will collect and store this much voltage.”

Post 40: ” Anybody who can generate hundreds of millions of DC voltage from a single lightning bolt and who can store TENS OF BILLIONS of voltage can certainly spare some of it for a DC-AC inverter and disconnect his whole office from his local electric grid.

Post 48: “I know how to store tens of billions of volts of electricity, using a single lightning bolt as my source.”

On and on you continue to speak of planning to step up the voltage to gain energy for running a business, producing hydrogen, disconnecting office building from the grid, totally unaware of the problems with arcs, voltage drop in inductance, terrible economics, and prior voltage step up means.

Nothing in your early posts indicating this is only a theoretical concept.

Your really thought you could do all this in practice, not theory, and produce hydrogen more economically than current means, disconnect your office building from the grid, etc.!

Now that you realize all this is nonsense as we told you, you are back peddling trying not to admit how stupid you were by now claiming it was only "theoretical discussion." At least you have learned a little. For example, you now understand voltage is not energy and that AC or brief DC pulses voltage does drop across inductance and perhaps a few other things you have learned, but Jeeees, are you a slow learner!
 
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Benny, you're losing the plot man. I didn't say that was what you were attempting, did I?

You said I had a memory problem, but you "forgot" that other posters have COMPLETELY forgotten that 100GV is only a mathematical result of a theoretical rewiring of millions of caps.


I understand what you are trying to achieve Benny, but seriously think you have flaws, and misconceptions.

Tell me what you think my design flaws are, and we'll have a basis for a conversation.


Hell, when you joined this thread you wouldnt accept that a capacitor blocks DC current. I still think that your design is flawed, because you haven't answered how you intend to charge your capacitors, nor encourage the lightning to strike your aparatus.

You've converted your lack of knowledge about my circuit design into an absolute conviction that I can't do what I've said I can do. This is arrogance bordering on absolute stupidity.


Oh, and living in the UK, I don't give a rat's ass if you get a US patent, Benny.

That's a lie, because you said just yesterday that you didn't think I would get one.
 
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Post 35: “I know how to "multiply voltage", I mean that if a lightning bolt has, say, 300 Kv, the equipment I'll use will be capable of storing tens of billions of volts.” That's what will drive the economics of my business heavily in my favor. The equipment is a one-time cost, and the cost of the labor, including all the office staff, should be far less than the money I'll be able to bring in by selling the hydrogen and the oxygen.

Post 36: “Anybody who can generate hundreds of millions of DC voltage from a single lightning bolt and who can store TENS OF BILLIONS of voltage can certainly spare some of it for a DC-AC inverter and disconnect his whole office from his local electric grid. … The science works on paper, and the only real problems I see are obtaining all the federal, state, and local government permits to set up and use the equipment and obtaining enough money to pay the employees, buy the land, and pay for the equipment that can and will collect and store this much voltage.”

Post 40: ” Anybody who can generate hundreds of millions of DC voltage from a single lightning bolt and who can store TENS OF BILLIONS of voltage can certainly spare some of it for a DC-AC inverter and disconnect his whole office from his local electric grid.

Post 48: “I know how to store tens of billions of volts of electricity, using a single lightning bolt as my source.”

And on and on you continue to speak of planning to step up the voltage to gain energy running a business, totally unaware of the problems with arcs, voltage drop in inductance, terrible economics, prior voltage step up means.

Not anything in your early posts indicating this is only a theoretical concept.

Current dividers have no theoretical limit on how many branches they can have. Every new branch simply reduces the amount of current per branch, assuming that the components in each branch are the same. When you have seen and accepted the estimates for lightning current, any sane circuit designer will put a lot of branches into his current divider, and he'll be able to brag, as I did, that IF the millions of branches were re-wired in series, he could theoretically end up with a single string of caps with a 100GV of potential voltage.

Likewise, voltage dividers have no theoretical limit on the number of capacitors that can be wired in series. Each additional cap reduces the amount of voltage that gets stored in each cap, and one more time, after you have seen and accepted the voltage estimates for typical lightning bolts, a sane circuit designer can put as many HV caps into each branch that will add up to some voltage level above the typical maximum.



Your really thought you could do all this in practice and produce hydrogen more economically than current means!

You really thought you could get away with forgetting all my words about the timing of my economic planning????


JUST FOR YOU, BILLY !!!

Benny's goals:
1. Patent
2. Profit

BILLY HAS A LEARNING DISABILITY.
Quo est demonstratum.
 
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Speaking of memory problems, here are a few YOUR posts stating exactly the opposite of what you are now claiming:

Post 40: ” Anybody who can generate hundreds of millions of DC voltage from a single lightning bolt and who can store TENS OF BILLIONS of voltage can certainly spare some of it for a DC-AC inverter and disconnect his whole office from his local electric grid.

Nothing in your early posts indicating this is only a theoretical concept.

Billy, that was just one example out of many that indicated what a circuit designer CAN DO by making a current divider that had thousands of branches, each one having thousands or tens of thousands of HV caps.

This discussion was ALWAYS theoretical. I've never built a single current/voltage divider that had thousands of caps in it, but my electronics school taught me some principles 30 years ago. I simply expanded upon them. Once I learned the estimated voltage and current in a typical lightning bolt, I saw how necessary it was to do so. When I say that I "expanded upon" the principles, I'm simply referring to a current divider that has, say, 5,000 branches instead of only five. Likewise for putting thousands of HV caps into each branch instead of dealing with only two or three caps with much smaller voltage ratings.

This has always been a theoretical discussion, and so, theoretically, I was free to visualize millions of HV caps that were removed from the current divider and re-wired in series. When you use your imagination like that, you can easily imagine voltage levels in twelve figures, such as the 100GV amount that I first used a long time ago, one that some here thought I wanted to reproduce with real wires, real HV caps, and a real electrician with a lot of time on his hands. As for the real circuits that I really want to build and use, after I receive my patent of course, and after I've finished the economic planning of course, there will be no re-wiring of any caps because they'll ALL be discharged in place, and one at a time. This is (one more time) ONLY AFTER I've received a US Patent, and ONLY AFTER I've done the extensive economic planning I said I would do, using the then-current prices for electricity, caps, wires, electricians, office help, managers, buildings, and all the other factors that determine economic profitability.

A 100GV string of caps only had one use, as far as I'm concerned. As a theoretical concept, it can give some people the ability to begin to understand how many volts of electricity would theoretically be discharged IN TOTAL from all those thousands of caps and sent either to the inverter or to the electrolyzer, all at the expense of lightning's current, which can afford to lose a few zeros. GEE, BILLY, DO YOU REMEMBER ME SAYING THIS AT ANY TIME IN THE PAST?

As for the ongoing dispute regarding the different methods of measuring electricity, let me say this: When a cap is being discharged, it's easier to measure the decrease in a cap's voltage than to measure the decrease in the Joules. If you choose to measure KWh, then the decreasing voltage, as measured by a voltmeter, would be one factor in your calculation, and so it's easy and hopefully understandable if I refer to a loss of voltage over time.

Please try not to forget what I've said, Billy. I really hate repeating myself.:mad:
 
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You said I had a memory problem, but you "forgot" that other posters have COMPLETELY forgotten that 100GV is only a mathematical result of a theoretical rewiring of millions of caps.

Benny, one, I refer you to Billy T's post above, where you've been shown to look a bit silly, and two, I haven't mentioned the bazillion volts in ages, so stop accusing me of bringing it up.

Tell me what you think my design flaws are, and we'll have a basis for a conversation.

That you don't seem to understand that getting lightning to do work (ie, be stored) will make your apparatus less attractive to lightning than a direct path to ground? Especially as you intend switching off the flow into your cap bank, so need some sort of path to Earth there, and a well insulated one at that, to prevent arc overs, and alternate strikes.




You've converted your lack of knowledge about my circuit design into an absolute conviction that I can't do what I've said I can do. This is arrogance bordering on absolute stupidity.

It's not my failing that you are incapable or unwilling to divulge your methods, and what you do reveal, only reveals your ignorance of the subject. (I refer you back to the entire period duing which you denined capacitors block DC.)


That's a lie, because you said just yesterday that you didn't think I would get one.

Care to quote me where you allege I said that?
 
post 455... theoretically, I was free to visualize millions of HV caps that were removed from the current divider and re-wired in series. When you use your imagination like that, you can easily imagine voltage levels in twelve figures, such as the 100GV
Benny you were so ignorant of the field that you did not know of the idea of stepping up voltage by reconnecting capacitors charged in parallel into a series string was very old technology. When I told you of it, you thought it was my new idea! Even just in imagination, 100GV is only possible for the very ignorant who don't know about arcs, etc.
{Post 44}... Billy, your ideas on how to increase DC voltages is interesting, and no, I won't tell you my circuit designs…
{post 46} I am not interested in your circuit design because:

First the voltage multiplier idea is not my idea. - They were used in space craft built at APL/JHU, where I worked 30 years ago and already then old established art to generate with little weight higher voltage than the primary batteries.

Secondly judging from your confusion between voltage and energy in your posts, you are not well enough informed in physics or electronics to know anything new of interest (or even decades old technology). Thirdly …

PS you do not "store voltage", only energy.
post 455... This discussion was ALWAYS theoretical.
Post 454: … {brag} as I did, that IF the millions of branches were re-wired in series, he could theoretically end up with a single string of caps with a 100GV of potential voltage.
There was no “IF” until the back peddling started nor was it a “theoretic discussion”. You specifically said you could, you were going to do it, would not rest until you had done it etc. You either have a very faulty memory or are just DISHONESTLY back peddling now, but your own words show you ACTUALLY planned to do all the things you claimed, including step up the voltage to get more energy!. See more what you claimed (in addition to the many stupid posts of yours I quoted in post 542) in next paragraphs below. I found them while looking for the above quotes. I noticed more of your stupid posts that clearly show, despite your current back peddling claims that it was all must mathematical or theoretical discussion, that you really did stupidly think voltage was energy and could be increased by stepping it up to power your office building, make hydrogen etc.

Post 48: “I know that tens of billions of volts is more than what many offices require for their office equipment, heat, air conditioning, and lights. I know how to take tens of billions of DC volts that I've stored and use some of it (as AC electricity) for my office needs. … And finally, I know how to take the rest of my stored DC electricity and feed THAT, with the voltage regulation that is needed for maximum efficiency, into an electrolyzer.

Post 93: “As a practical example, I said I could multiply the voltage collected from a lightning … if I decrease the current or the resistance in my collection and storage equipment, and that's exactly what I intend to do … some of you seem to be surprised at the extremely high voltage levels I intend to store and work with. There will be safeguards to prevent accidental discharges and electric shock to the technicians.”

Post 79: “Hey, does anybody want to save 80-100 lives every year? … I want more. Much more. I want a hundred billion volts to be stored in my equipment, ready to be directed through an electrolyzer and into a DC-AC inverter. And I'm not going to rest until I get them.

Post 77: “If one lightning bolt can keep my office going AND turn water into hydrogen and oxygen at a low cost, then I'm going to do it.

Post 120: “The first test of the economics will come when I find out whether I can disconnect my office from the grid. After that, I'll see how much energy I have left.
 
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Benny, one, I refer you to Billy T's post above, where you've been shown to look a bit silly, and two, I haven't mentioned the bazillion volts in ages, so stop accusing me of bringing it up.

Every one of your posts is focused on trying to make me look silly, not on any serious discussion of electricity, circuits, lightning, economics, or electrochemistry. When you want to discuss any of these topics, please let me know by writing something that doesn't attack me personally.


That you don't seem to understand that getting lightning to do work (ie, be stored) will make your apparatus less attractive to lightning than a direct path to ground? Especially as you intend switching off the flow into your cap bank, so need some sort of path to Earth there, and a well insulated one at that, to prevent arc overs, and alternate strikes.

I "don't seem to understand" something? Really, Phil. Try rewriting that sentence so it leaves out the insult and I might respond.


]It's not my failing that you are incapable or unwilling to divulge your methods, and what you do reveal, only reveals your ignorance of the subject. (I refer you back to the entire period duing which you denined capacitors block DC.)

Serious discussions involve lots of back-and-forth information regarding scientific topics, without anybody saying "you failed" or "you're ignorant". If you want to discuss science, please do so and don't harp on anybody's past errors. You've made a few yourself, you know.

I have already started the serious discussion by saying that a current/voltage divider, properly stocked with plenty of HV caps, like the 200KV-rated variety I linked to, pages ago, would be able to store the electricity in a single lightning bolt. All that remains for any potential patent applicant like myself is to design the collection equipment, decide how best to prevent multiple lightning strikes from creating a lot of overcharged (and possibly damaged) caps, and then to create an efficient way to transfer the electricity to your load(s).

Your turn, Phil. Continue the discussion WITHOUT mentioning any of my supposed "failings". Besides, I'd like to hear your ideas. Tell us how you'd design some circuitry to capture, collect, and store hundreds of millions of volts of DC electricity, coming at you at a peak amperage of approximately 100KA. You've been very vocal about criticizing MY ideas. Let's see your own, for the sake of contrast and for the sake of some new information.

Benny
 
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Benny you were so ignorant of the field that you did not know of the idea of stepping up voltage by reconnecting capacitors charged in parallel into a series string was very old technology. When I told you of it, you thought it was my new idea! Even just in imagination, 100GV is only possible for the very ignorant who don't know about arcs, etc.

There was no “IF” until the back peddling started nor was it a “theoretic discussion”. You specifically said you could, you were going to do it, would not rest until you had done it etc. You either have a very faulty memory or are just DISHONESTLY back peddling now, but your own words show you ACTUALLY planned to do all the things you claimed, including step up the voltage to get more energy!. See more what you claimed (in addition to the many stupid posts of yours I quoted in post 542) in next paragraphs below. I found them while looking for the above quotes. I noticed more of your stupid posts that clearly show, despite your current back peddling claims that it was all must mathematical or theoretical discussion, that you really did stupidly think voltage was energy and could be increased by stepping it up to power your office building, make hydrogen etc.

Post 48: “I know that tens of billions of volts is more than what many offices require for their office equipment, heat, air conditioning, and lights. I know how to take tens of billions of DC volts that I've stored and use some of it (as AC electricity) for my office needs. … And finally, I know how to take the rest of my stored DC electricity and feed THAT, with the voltage regulation that is needed for maximum efficiency, into an electrolyzer.

Post 93: “As a practical example, I said I could multiply the voltage collected from a lightning … if I decrease the current or the resistance in my collection and storage equipment, and that's exactly what I intend to do … some of you seem to be surprised at the extremely high voltage levels I intend to store and work with. There will be safeguards to prevent accidental discharges and electric shock to the technicians.”

Post 79: “Hey, does anybody want to save 80-100 lives every year? … I want more. Much more. I want a hundred billion volts to be stored in my equipment, ready to be directed through an electrolyzer and into a DC-AC inverter. And I'm not going to rest until I get them.

Post 77: “If one lightning bolt can keep my office going AND turn water into hydrogen and oxygen at a low cost, then I'm going to do it.

Post 120: “The first test of the economics will come when I find out whether I can disconnect my office from the grid. After that, I'll see how much energy I have left.

Looks like Billy is having a meltdown.

For the benefit of all who read this board, my goals, my techniques, and some of my circuitry have all been divulged for weeks now. Until Phil joined in, there was a serious discussion of science and technology. Now there's little talk except for some insults, until I post (or re-post) my ideas, which may not have the exact terminology others want but do include the concepts they need to discuss.

I'll try to humor Billy for the moment, but if he can't talk turkey about science and technology, I'll just stop responding out of sheer boredom.

Here's something I said that he quoted, and accurately at that, from post #79. "I want a hundred billion volts to be stored in my equipment, ready to be directed through an electrolyzer and into a DC-AC inverter." A hundred billion volts IS what you get if you buy and charge up five thousand 200kv caps, using any DC source that's capable of delivering that much electricity.

The majority of my early posts DID use the term "voltage" when I should've said "energy", but when I submit my application to the patent office, the correct terminology will be used. I admit it, as a fallible human being, I make mistakes. Those past mistakes should not prevent anybody from discussing lightning voltage, current, or the ability of a fallible human being to collect and store an awful lot of electricity and its' later usage at a much reduced amount of voltage and current.
 
... Looks like Billy is having a meltdown. ...
No, I just don't like arrogant, dishonest, back peddling, liars, so I feed them back their own words (post 452 & 457) to expose their back peddling lies.

You did not just use the wrong word "voltage" when you should have used "energy" YOU HAD THE CONCEPTS WRONG* !!! You even spoke of using up a little bit of your stored voltage at a time to power your electrolyizer, etc. You still seem to think one can "store voltage" and have other stupid ideas.

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*In your post 150 you let slip why your concepts were all wrong:
... A long time ago, I was shown the principles in a simple circuit consisting of a battery, a light bulb, and a knife switch. The battery produced voltage which the light bulb turned into light by being a resistive element. Ever since, I have thought in terms of voltage being "used up". ...
Because you thought voltage WAS energy and you knew how to multiply the voltage, you even thought you could violate the conservation of energy law, power your office building, make cheap hydrogen, etc. by stepping up the voltage.

Admitting you were stupidly ignorant would have been much smarter than trying to defend your errors or back peddle now and deny you ever said what you did. For example, no one makes fun of MacGyver because he did post something quickly that was stupid in post 114, especially as he later admitted it and deleted that post giving "stupidity" as the reason for deleting. We are all laughing at you as you behave differently and usually are posting some stupidity.
 
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