Can morals exist without religion?

[Ophiolite]

It's not worth picking a fight for no good reason).

But it can be such fun.

 

[Terra]

I think that [prior to going into detalied answers] seculars have to admit that morals come FROM Biblical sources.

 

[SnakeLord]

But it can be such fun

Not if the other guy wins

 

[Nickelodeon]

http://www.sfbg.com/39/21/cover_fight.html

 

[SnakeLord]

I think that [prior to going into detalied answers] seculars have to admit that morals come FROM Biblical sources.

Complete and utter nonsense. Needless to say, before the bible was written the people that wrote the bible would have had to have morals to be able to write about those morals - ergo, it cannot be biblically sourced.

Furthermore, the biblical laws have their origins in much earlier texts such as the code of Hammurabi.

Your statement is incorrect.

 

[solidsquid]

I think that [prior to going into detalied answers] seculars have to admit that morals come FROM Biblical sources.

So, before the writing of the bible, there was no such thing as morality? That's a bit silly.

 

[Medicine*Woman]

I think that [prior to going into detalied answers] seculars have to admit that morals come FROM Biblical sources.

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M*W: Humans by nature have morals. The bible is a latter day document compared to the Code of Hammurabi which contained the original commandments (more than ten, as I recall) before the bible scribes copied the Code and plagarized it in the bible.

 

[Singularity]

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M*W: Humans by nature have morals. The bible is a latter day document compared to the Code of Hammurabi which contained the original commandments (more than ten, as I recall) before the bible scribes copied the Code and plagarized it in the bible.

No wonder all the religion have morals as integral part of them.

 

[Carcano]

The bible is a latter day document compared to the Code of Hammurabi which contained the original commandments before the bible scribes copied the Code and plagarized it in the bible.

The Code of Hammurabi contains 282 laws, none of which reads like any of the ten Hebrew commandments.

 

[beyondtimeandspace]

Medicine Woman, it's only plegiarism if you claim it's original work.

 

[Medicine*Woman]

Medicine Woman, it's only plegiarism if you claim it's original work.

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M*W: Isn't that what the authors of the OT did?

 

[SnakeLord]

The Code of Hammurabi contains 282 laws, none of which reads like any of the ten Hebrew commandments.

Your statement is in error. The "ten commandments" are not the only laws found in the OT. There are dozens if not hundreds of laws featured in the OT from what to do with diseased people to how to treat slaves, from how to grow crop on your land to what kind of clothing you can or can not wear. These views and laws on what is right and wrong vastly predate the biblical laws and are indeed the predecessor to them - thus showing Terras statement to be utterly without worth.

Furthermore it is worth asking what exactly Terra refers to to begin with. It has to be stated that it's unlikely those "biblically sourced" morals would include keeping slaves, stoning prostitutes, witches and naughty children etc etc and so forth. This in itself shows that morals are not "biblically sourced", because when it comes down to these 'morals' pretty much every one of us disagrees with those biblical morals.

 

[Carcano]

The "ten commandments" are not the only laws found in the OT. There are dozens if not hundreds of laws featured in the OT from what to do with diseased people to how to treat slaves, from how to grow crop on your land to what kind of clothing you can or can not wear.

Yes, but the Code of Hammurabi bears only a marginal and coincidental resemblence.