Can God Violate the Uncertainty Principle?

[spidergoat]

God would have been destroyed in the process of creation. It was a situation of maximum entropy.

 

[Reiku]

Are saying perhaps God dies to give birth?

 

[spidergoat]

In which case he couldn't know what he created. He played dice.

 

[Reiku]

Its a romantic idea. But i see one problem, and that is, what consistency was it that died? I mean, God would be entangled in this creation, and nothing according to quantum physics is ever lost, so we would need to ask what it was that died.

 

[Myles]

It would save a lot of time and effort if, before speculating on what he might or might not do, God's existence could be established. Surely this is a necessary first step unless the discussion is meant for theists only.

 

[Reiku]

Godels theorem however, kind of stands in the way of determining whether he does or does not.

 

[AlphaNumeric]

And why is that?

 

[Reiku]

Well, i am saying this, because his theorem proves we cannot know everything.

 

[Myles]

Well, i am saying this, because his theorem proves we cannot know everything.

Then surely the answer should be that we do not know, suggesting that we should remain silent on this topic.

 

[Reiku]

Not quite. Usually whn considering such variables, one must weight both sides statistically.

 

[Enmos]

Not quite. Usually whn considering such variables, one must weight both sides statistically.

Statistically ? How ?

 

[Reiku]

Imagine there are two outcomes to one story. A statistical outcome, or probability factor can issue how likely A god is in spacetime. And, knowing a lot about statistics, i can tell you that a universe with infinite possibilities has a high probability that a god does and can exist.

 

[Enmos]

Imagine there are two outcomes to one story. A statistical outcome, or probability factor can issue how likely A god is in spacetime. And, knowing a lot about statistics, i can tell you that a universe with infinite possibilities has a high probability that a god does and can exist.

Our current knowledge (which should be the basis for our assumptions) suggests the chance is zero.

 

[Reiku]

Actually, our current basis of knowledge cannot even answer for gravity, never mind any speculations about a God Theory equalling zero.

 

[Enmos]

Actually, our current basis of knowledge cannot even answer for gravity, never mind any speculations about a God Theory equalling zero.

Since there is nothing observable in nature that even remote resembles anything like God, it is safest to assume God doesn't exist.
Same with the tooth fairy etc.

 

[Reiku]

Really? I would have said nature represents God in a whole???

 

[Enmos]

Really? I would have said nature represents God in a whole???

Meaning ? Nature is God ?

 

[Reiku]

Yes. Exactly. This is what the ancient Indians to believe. They saw spirit in the mountains and the sky, the water and in the rock...

 

[Enmos]

Yes. Exactly. This is what the ancient Indians to believe. They saw spirit in the mountains and the sky, the water and in the rock...

Then why not just call it nature ??

 

[Reiku]

Because both the words ''God'' and ''Nature'' are but metaphors relevant to our existences.