Burning Temperature of Jet Fuel

[phlogistician]

It's interesting how so many people that never even heard of Thermite until they read some claim on a woo woo site suddenly think they are experts.

It's not just any thermite, it's nano thermite, you know, even though it was still hard to produce in the lab in much quantity back in 2001. But of course, the Govt had huge stockpiles of the stuff. Fuck, they probably used a time machine to get it from the future! Jesus, the WTC was brought down by thermite wielding killer robots from the future! People must be told!

 

[Neverfly]

They were reverse engineered from Megatron.

 

[MacGyver1968]

Roscogre,

Welcome to boards. There are many different theories concerning the events of 9/11. Some believe nano-thermite was used, others believe in DEW's or no planes. Would you mind giving us your basic theory on what happened on 9/11?

Thanks,

Mac

 

[roscogre]

Dear roscogre,

“Andre” never claimed, "jet exhaust will melt most metals".
What was said was, "The AFTERBURNER FLAME can melt most metals."

As those “reheat” combustion temp.s can range from 1500-ish at initial ignition (a slight dip from the relatively-stable turbine exhaust temp as the first fuel “dumps” into the stream) to well over 2500F at full-bore, this statement is entirely correct.

The erroneous notion that anything more than the aircraft impacts and subsequent fires were needed to bring down the Twin Towers is not…

A massive “conspiracy” surrounding 9/11 did, indeed, exist, but it did NOT involve explosives, thermite, thermate, or any of the other “obvious demolition techniques” bandied-about by various lay people and fringe-element websites.

NONE OF THE ABOVE WAS REQUIRED!

Many of the sixty-plus elevator shafts above the halfway point of the structure made excellent twenty-foot-wide blowtorches, once 24,000 gallons of jet fuel was poured down them and ignited…

All it really took was decades of deliberate agitation of psychotic religious fanatics worldwide by our last three equally-psychotic Republican administrations, and for those self-styled “leaders” to turn a blind(ed) eye to known threats at crucial moments.

Although they didn’t know the exact form it would take, and certainly weren’t prepared for the sheer scope of the event, various “black-op.s” groups within the CIA, NSA, FBI and the whole alphabet-soup of our so-called “intelligence community” had been striving diligently (at the behest of and with the full blessing of those same Republican lunatics) for some such “watershed” attack since the day the Berlin Wall came down, in order to preserve their precious d@mn&d BUDGETS from the inevitable result of the “ramping-down” of the cold war. Since any reduction in said budgets was, in their paranoid, delusional “judgment”, “…a threat to national security!” (read: “…a threat to our job security!”), they felt they had to do whatever it took to create a nice, solid, permanent, implacable “enemy” at whom we could be brainwashed into throwing billions of tax dollars for decades into the foreseeable future.

This they achieved famously, if on a somewhat larger and more heinous scale than they anticipated.

Never mind that their money and employment were never in any REAL danger (China, Israel, Korea, Pakistan, etc. etc., etc., would always have kept them busy enough) - they HAD to have their way, and they most assuredly have done so…

Add-in the profit potential of a second, unnecessary Gulf War for the “Bush-Laden Oil’glomerate”, Haliburton, Blackwater and dozens of other “defense” contractors and filthy-rich (emphasis on “FILTHY”) Bush family campaign contributors, and you have the exact formula for “What Really Happened”, to commandeer the name of one of the loonier “See that puff of smoke? Obviously it was blown up with bombs!” websites.

“Dr. dB”

extremely deceptive and obvious attempt at misinformation and obfuscation.

 

[roscogre]

Roscogre,

Welcome to boards. There are many different theories concerning the events of 9/11. Some believe nano-thermite was used, others believe in DEW's or no planes. Would you mind giving us your basic theory on what happened on 9/11?

Thanks,

Mac

Sorry ti took so long to get back to you.
well towers one and two were obviously very high tech demolitions probably using thermite,high explosive,and other experimental weapons.
The 24 circular vertical holes cut into the street,through several buildings especially #6 straight down to below ground level seem very hard to explain with conventional explosives.
The pools of molten metal witnessed by over 20 people including Paul Tully of Tully construction and Mark Loizaeux of CDI Inc and 45 degree cut steel columns could be explained by massive amounts of thermite.
Dust rising upward instead of settling down indicates dis-integration and gives credence to Judy Woods theories,as do the holes.
bldg.7 was obviously a classic controlled demolition.
The comparative video evidence (explained in September Clues) proves fakery and there is no evidence of a passenger jet crashing at any of the 4 sites,except for the easily debunked videos.
And most witnesses said "that was no plane,that was an explosion".

 

[roscogre]

Ooh, don't tell me.
One more semi-literate conspiracy theorist.
I don't suppose you have links to any evidence for the *cough* points you're making?

ooh don't tell me
another name calling moron who hasn't a leg to stand on when confromnted with evidence.

 

[roscogre]

Is anyone claiming that the steel melted? Steel will begin to soften and lose its structural strength long before it actually liquefies. As I recall it begins to soften significantly at like 400-500 C, which would probably be well within the temperature range of a kerosene fire.

yes apart from many credible witnesses,you can see it on video.
molten steel and cut columns
You obviously know nothing about the subject but still you talk

 

[roscogre]

How about you look it up, and present the evidence yourself?

Someone had a nice big bowl of Frosted Fail-O's this morning. Aluminum in sheets doesn't burn very easily, as it forms an oxidation later. That's why its ground into a power for thermite.

Please post a picture of this melted steel. I'd like to see it.

It's easy to find look for yourself.

 

[roscogre]

Because Bin ladin released a video saying he did it.

Because phone calls from bin ladin to the terrorists that did it was recorded.

You see here is my point about the whole theories coming out of the rascist ideas that arabs are stupid, slow, goatherders, thats not the case and anyone that honestly tries to spread that idea is scum.

you are scum and a traitor probably paid by the bankers and everything you say is an easily proved lie,fu*%face.

 

[roscogre]

Oh really? Show me this video of molten steel.

show you
spoon feed you because you are too stupid to find the most ubiquitous evidence on the subject?
What a moronic waste of time you are,take your nonsense to youtube,where someone might believe your nonsense.

 

[Stryder]

This thread has gone completely off-topic, The OP didn't ask for 9/11 theories or discussion on 9/11 and since that OP was in 2005, I'd suggest this thread has lived it's lifetime.