Originally posted by Jihad_AlifLamLamHah
Lets say man has 100 genes . Those genes dont define race , they define MAN . lets say 5 genes define race . Also these 5 genes can only be gained biologically through family . Also these 5 genes are externally visible .
Yes, but what genes spacificaly is it that make up "race"? How deep does it go? Is it nothing more than the same skin color and a range of facial structures, or would you imply that there are other factors which would make one race better than another?
Originally posted by Jihad_AlifLamLamHah
This goes hand in hand with Historical base , that shows were peoples come from .
In the modern world, though race is an increasingly inacurate determination of "who some one is" or "where they come from" There are many people now who have never been to the land where their ansestors came from, and to assume that a person who looks like a member of another land or culture even remotely embrases the culture or values of that people.
Originally posted by Jihad_AlifLamLamHah
What if I there is a black brazillian and a white brazillian who are both totally equal except that , how can I distinguish then ? I need to for sociological purposes , because the way they look/who they are obviously HAS influence on the behaviiour/interaction of their environment .
This is completely rediculous. Don't deny people their individuality simply because you are too lazy to abandon your own pre-conseived notions.
Originally posted by Jihad_AlifLamLamHah
And then there's psychological , peoples have indeed races in their minds .... if you deny races then how can you find out what exactly this X that they have in their min d does if you cant even properly distinguish/define it ?
So do you mean to propose that there is a distinctly and inherently unique "Black" mind and "White" mind and "Arab" mind, and a seperate mind for every race? Again, don't deny people their individualilty, just because you say that they are a part of a group does not mean that it is truely so.
Originally posted by Jihad_AlifLamLamHah
The aggression-theory is no pseudoscience my friend , Ante Diop is one of the most valued African Anthropologists ever ,
What do I care who he is? His theory is bunk. Following this logic eskimos should be the most angry and aggresive people in the world, yet we really don't see this, do we? Also, doesn't extreem heat and dehydration make someone cranky? So evolutionarily speaking Affricans and Middle easterners are also biologicaly aggresive peoples!
Originally posted by Jihad_AlifLamLamHah
His theory is as I have explained , the same things that caused the paling of the skin , caused a nature more aggressive because of the circumstances that followed out of the cold . How is that pseudo-scientific ?
Because there is no evidence for it, nor is it a theory to explain a phenomenon. He has started with the conclusion and then made the justification: whites are biologically aggressive people. Yet this conclusion was not based on observation, instead he built the theory just so that he could set the conclusion on top of it. It's a clearly biased and unscientific theory, and really is just laughable.
Originally posted by Jihad_AlifLamLamHah
Anyways yes they are quite aggressive when they are upset , mostly this deals with culture , socio-economical circumstances
This is called the fundamental attribution error. That is, a person's tendency to blame their own failings, or negative attributes, on external circumstances (which act as a justification) however, when other people fail, or display negative attributes, it is because they are inherently bad people. So, when whites are aggressive, it is because they are a biologically angry people, when Arabs are angry, though, it is with good reasons from external influence.
Originally posted by Jihad_AlifLamLamHah
You are right , my apollogies for that . I didnt mean to trivilize your personal situation because I dont know it , I did mean to point that mostly its not all that bad especially compared to others .
Well thank you for that. And yes, you are right, I recognise that there are many others who's situation I could not be payed to be put in. I don't have it so bad as some people, but still I feel that I'm worse off than I should be.
Originally posted by Jihad_AlifLamLamHah
for a person to prosecute you , they should know you are gay correct ? So how do they identify you ? I am curious because I have some thoughts on a mental disorder that has potential to come along with homosexuality , that has been discussed here as well , I mean the only thing that should make a person gay are the sexual relations he has with another gay . So unless you're with your lover , how can they know ? Should they be able to know ? Because I can know easily , and most peoples can I think . Homosexuals tend to behave "gay" , but why ? Why do they start talking different , walking different etc etc . Dont get me wrong Im not saying all do , but many do ..... and I wonder why . I think it deals with identification-issues , and it deals with more groups than just gays ..... peoples grab what they think is representing them and put a plate around their necks ....
This line of thinking has always made me chuckle a bit.
First off, there are many ways in which one can tell that another person is gay. Yes, the most obvious is sexual relations with a member of the same sex. Any act toward another male in public which displays that you two are somehow more affectionate, or just closer than it is standard for two heterosexual friends to be will tip someone off.
Aside from that, there is a sort of homosexual subculture, homosexuals will often just act and dress differently than heterosexuals, these kinds of variations can be seen in just about any minority group, of course these can not be attributed to any unified culture. As far as these traits go, though it's observer error to think that one will always display these traits. If you define a homosexual as one who displays these secondary sub cultural traits, then it is only the people who display such traits that you will label as homosexuals. Those who do not display these traits or act "straight" (A funny way of thinking about it, because I act "Straight" but it's not an act for me, it's just how I am), so those homosexuals which do not display the traits you are looking for will simply fly under your radar and be labeled as just another heterosexual.