Bizarre sky phenomena

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Some eyewitness accounts defy even the normal ufo conventions. Take this case of a strange "black hole" seen in the skies over Vancouver:


25 Witnesses Observed a Black Oval Shaped Object
Vancouver /Burnaby, BC
Summer 2002/2003 ? Time: 3:00 pm
by By Brian Vike, Director HBCC UFO Research, http://www.hbccufo.org
Full Description of event/sighting:

"We were driving west in the afternoon into Vancouver on the #1 freeway. And in a clear sky overhead and to the south was a black object in the oval shape of a rugby ball! It was not moving and stayed exactly where it was as we approached. It seemed to be about 2000 feet above the ground near our Central Park and about the size of a 747.

Many people pulled off the highway to look at it, including 2 policemen. It did not move at all and was not a balloon or kite. In retrospect, the oval shape could have been a circle shape as viewed from an angle. It seemed like the opening of a round pipe.

We rushed home expecting to hear breaking news but nothing was said about it. I can see the area from my apartment and looked with binoculars after getting home but saw nothing and wondered if my angle of view now was parallel with the shape so it would be a straight line if in fact it was a flat opening of some kind like a disk? I would love to hear what it could have been.

Additional Information:

Brian, thanks for your reply. Please be clear about the included picture; that I used Photoshop to duplicate as close as I could to show what I saw. My wife saw it as well, and it seemed like it was in the area west of Central Park, south of Kingsway. And could have been about 1000 to 2000 feet up.

Our viewing angle was from the #1 freeway. We noticed it somewhere east of Willingdon Ave. interchange. It never appeared to be hovering, or moving at all or affected by wind or anything. It was definitely NOT a balloon or kite. Just solidly stationary in the sky. As if it was a flat plane of black disk, not even an edge to it. Nor did there appear to be any structure or shape to it other than the solid black disk. No light reflected off anything.

As we got just past the Willingdon exit, the traffic slowed down and we pulled to the side of the road as others did. There were even two RCMP officers stopped on a side road, (on what I think might be called Clydesdale St. which leads onto Grandview Hwy at Boundary Rd) they were out of their police car looking up at it too. Other traffic had slowed. I passed by and went home, listening to the radio for reports, but there were none. I even expected the 6 PM news to have video. When I got home, I live in a high rise in Vancouver and could see in that direction east, Central Park is directly in my eastern view, I got out my binoculars but could see nothing. I accounted that to the fact that I thought it was a flat object, and from my new view, it would only be a line in the sky if it was still there at all.. The thought did come to mind that it could have been a circular shape, if viewed directly from below, however I never went closer to find that out.

When I told some others about it, someone suggested it could have been a "black hole". I DO know what a real black hole is, but that was an apt description of what it appeared like. As if a pipe was there for some reason, and we could only see the hole in the pipe, but not the pipe itself.
I wonder if you'd get any interest from the RCMP office near the Gaglardi Way? Caribou Rd exit? I just discovered your website recently so can't exactly recall the month I saw it, and it could have even been 2002. Of course most people just smirk when you tell them and ask if I'm a 'trekkie' too, but it was a phenomenal and unforgettable sight. It would be most interesting to find others who saw it too."
====http://www.ufoevidence.org/cases/case1137.htm
 
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Some eyewitness accounts defy even the normal ufo conventions. Take this case of a strange "black hole" seen in the skies over Vancouver:


25 Witnesses Observed a Black Oval Shaped Object
Vancouver /Burnaby, BC
Summer 2002/2003 ? Time: 3:00 pm
by By Brian Vike, Director HBCC UFO Research, http://www.hbccufo.org
Full Description of event/sighting:

"We were driving west in the afternoon into Vancouver on the #1 freeway. And in a clear sky overhead and to the south was a black object in the oval shape of a rugby ball! It was not moving and stayed exactly where it was as we approached. It seemed to be about 2000 feet above the ground near our Central Park and about the size of a 747.

Many people pulled off the highway to look at it, including 2 policemen. It did not move at all and was not a balloon or kite. In retrospect, the oval shape could have been a circle shape as viewed from an angle. It seemed like the opening of a round pipe.

We rushed home expecting to hear breaking news but nothing was said about it. I can see the area from my apartment and looked with binoculars after getting home but saw nothing and wondered if my angle of view now was parallel with the shape so it would be a straight line if in fact it was a flat opening of some kind like a disk? I would love to hear what it could have been.

Additional Information:

Brian, thanks for your reply. Please be clear about the included picture; that I used Photoshop to duplicate as close as I could to show what I saw. My wife saw it as well, and it seemed like it was in the area west of Central Park, south of Kingsway. And could have been about 1000 to 2000 feet up.

Our viewing angle was from the #1 freeway. We noticed it somewhere east of Willingdon Ave. interchange. It never appeared to be hovering, or moving at all or affected by wind or anything. It was definitely NOT a balloon or kite. Just solidly stationary in the sky. As if it was a flat plane of black disk, not even an edge to it. Nor did there appear to be any structure or shape to it other than the solid black disk. No light reflected off anything.

As we got just past the Willingdon exit, the traffic slowed down and we pulled to the side of the road as others did. There were even two RCMP officers stopped on a side road, (on what I think might be called Clydesdale St. which leads onto Grandview Hwy at Boundary Rd) they were out of their police car looking up at it too. Other traffic had slowed. I passed by and went home, listening to the radio for reports, but there were none. I even expected the 6 PM news to have video. When I got home, I live in a high rise in Vancouver and could see in that direction east, Central Park is directly in my eastern view, I got out my binoculars but could see nothing. I accounted that to the fact that I thought it was a flat object, and from my new view, it would only be a line in the sky if it was still there at all.. The thought did come to mind that it could have been a circular shape, if viewed directly from below, however I never went closer to find that out.

When I told some others about it, someone suggested it could have been a "black hole". I DO know what a real black hole is, but that was an apt description of what it appeared like. As if a pipe was there for some reason, and we could only see the hole in the pipe, but not the pipe itself.
I wonder if you'd get any interest from the RCMP office near the Gaglardi Way? Caribou Rd exit? I just discovered your website recently so can't exactly recall the month I saw it, and it could have even been 2002. Of course most people just smirk when you tell them and ask if I'm a 'trekkie' too, but it was a phenomenal and unforgettable sight. It would be most interesting to find others who saw it too."====http://www.ufoevidence.org/cases/case1137.htm


Where was your camera you always take with you or your cell phone? Strange that a person like yourself who is always seeing these types of things didn't have any way to photograph it.
 
Where was your camera you always take with you or your cell phone? Strange that a person like yourself who is always seeing these types of things didn't have any way to photograph it.
Were camera phones common in 2002?

I don't remember much about technology from that far back.
 
Where did I say I saw this? Do I own a camera or a cellphone? No..

The way your post was laid out made it seem as though the second part:

When I told some others about it, someone suggested it could have been a "black hole". I DO know what a real black hole is, but that was an apt description of what it appeared like. As if a pipe was there for some reason, and we could only see the hole in the pipe, but not the pipe itself.
I wonder if you'd get any interest from the RCMP office near the Gaglardi Way? Caribou Rd exit? I just discovered your website recently so can't exactly recall the month I saw it, and it could have even been 2002. Of course most people just smirk when you tell them and ask if I'm a 'trekkie' too, but it was a phenomenal and unforgettable sight. It would be most interesting to find others who saw it too."

Was written from your personal perspective.

I have modified your post with these magic things called quote tags that allow people to know that you are quoting another source.

Also, how does this "defy normal ufo conventions"?
 
Actually I used quotation marks. The article was also titled and sourced. So there was no problem to begin with. Just trolls attacking me again.
 
Actually I used quotation marks. The article was also titled and sourced. So there was no problem to begin with. Just trolls attacking me again.

In other words, you intentionally attempted to make what you posted vague and obtuse... got it.

So, what is your claim in this - is that a UFO? Congratulations - it is a UFO - it's unidentified, it's flying, and it appears to be an object.

What is it?
 
So, what is your claim in this - is that a UFO? Congratulations - it is a UFO - it's unidentified, it's flying, and it appears to be an object.
Minor clarification: the term "UFO" is presumptuous, so it is not a great name for such unidentified phenomena (UP anyone?). You picked-up on one pre-supposition: "appears to be an object" (but may not be), but not the second: "Flying" is also a pre-supposition. It may not be.

Some people prefer the term "UAP" where the "A" stands for either "aerial" or "aerspace". Such organizations are clearly more scientifically minded than the UFO=LGM sites:
http://www.uapreporting.org/
...but the term doesn't completely eliminate the problem with "flying" because the phenomena being observed isn't necessarily real, much less in the sky or space. A couple of examples:

1. One Project Blue Book "UFO" turned-out to be a firefly trapped between the panes of glass of an airplane window. I think it was actually crawling, not flying, but even if it had been flying between the panes of glass, it wasn't flying in the sky.

2. The [in]famous Mexican Air Force sighting 5-10 years ago where Flir imagry of a distant oil rig was misinterpreted as aircraft.

In both cases, the pre-supposition of "flying" played a key role in the perception and not recognizing that it is a pre-supposition can make the analysis more difficult by unintentionally (or intentionally) excluding other possibilities.
 
We only call them UFOs because "unidentified flying object" makes a better acronym than "thing in the sky".
 
Clearly not that stealthy.
Yes. Note that this issue - if it is indeed a blimp - is actually a heavily researched and tackled aspect of visual stealth; camouflage. The two-tone grey paint scheme of many military aircraft is based on exactly this issue. Making the paint lighter on the borrom reduces the silhouetting. But it doesn't eliminate it, because the sun is really, really bright. So in addition, active illumination has been considered:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yehudi_lights
 
Hey, what's that UFO?

Oh, it's just the joke, flying way over river's head.
 
Who woulda thunk it?

John Lennon:

"He claimed he was standing on the balcony of his apartment on August 23 1974, with former girlfriend May Pang.

The pair claimed to have seen a flying saucer hovering silently over them.

In Lennon’s song Nobody Told Me he appears to refer to the incident with the lyric “There’s a UFO over New York and I ain’t too surprised.”

Mr Kellett, an avid collector of UFO material and a Beatles fan, said when he was the chance to acquire the sketch, he jumped at the opportunity.

He said: “A friend of mine told me it was becoming available from a private collector and I thought, this was a double dream for me.

“I am a massive collector of all things UFO and have a huge archive and am a collector of Beatles memorabilia.

“I have a leather jacket worn by John Lennon in 1969 up until 1974. So this was fantastic.

“It is one of a few he made he made of the incident.

“This one shows him on the balcony pointing into the sky at the object which says UFO on it.”.....=========http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/john-lennon-ufo-link-north-9490684

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