whatsmuscles:
How is biological's existence chaotic? Because you dont understand it? If it is so chaotic, then how can all the parts that make up a cell work together in harmony and exist? How is nature chaotic? Explain this kid....Because I killed a worm? Isnt that part of the cycle of life?
Biology is a staggeringly complex system that appears to be near-chaos when observed, and NOBODY truely understands how it all works. Discoveries are made daily, knowledge is advanced a little more, but we've still got a ways to go before we can say that we have a rock-solid grasp on how it works.
[sidenote]I find that you're excellent practise when it comes to identifying logical fallacies and fundie ignorance. I count... one (kinda) ad hominem attack, one strawman, one distortion of readily-available fact, and one statement totally unrelated to the topic. How am I doing?[/sidenote]
whatsmuscles, just because science can't explain something today doesn't mean we won't figure it out in 5, 10, 100 or 1000 years; we can't be so ignorant so as to ascribe anything we don't understand NOW to the supernatural. 1000 years ago was powered flight anything beyond the fevered dreams of madmen? If a peasant from 11th century England saw a jet airplane he'd think it was an angel, or (if it was flying at lower altitude) a dragon. A normal handgun would appear to that peasant to kill someone with no more than a thunderclap. Nowadays we take many things for granted that would have seemed like magic even a mere century ago.
So we don't have all the answers about the origins of life; does that automatically mean that God was responsible? Or does it merely represent a temporary gap in knowledge that is being researched as we speak? Think carefully about the lessons history has to offer before you answer that one half-cocked.
Religion requires blind faith? LOL, thats not my understanding of many years in the game, is that al your deluded little mind learned about religion? Then I suggest you do a little more study than eating chips and watching southpark...
Well... yeah, actually, it does require blind faith. You STILL have yet to provide, over the many threads I've seen you on, any one singular piece of empirical evidence that God actually exists. Simple statements of faith and calling your opposition 'idiotic' isn't evidence. The moment you can prove that your beliefs have actual physical/scientifically detectable proof, I and the other atheists here will stop calling it blind faith.
Yes there are empirical evidence of SOME sciences. Take biology and medical works for example, those are empirical evidence and SOME of its study is an absolute fact, because it IS EVIDENT...
If there isn't empirical evidence then it isn't science, unless said evidence is
predicted to exist by an accepted theory. In that case, the idea is to
find said evidence. If it fits into the framework and confirms the theory, great. If not, then the theory is revised to fit the contradictory evidence; such as it was with relativity, when Einstein was finally forced to accept the fact that the universe was in fact expanding, contrary to the static model he so vehemently defended.
About Biological and technological existence, if any of these are discovered, how does it take the creator of the universe out of science? How? Why would your human pride then assume that there is no God, is it because now you became your own God?
God never had a place in science in the first place; if it can't be observed or measured, then it's unusable as a factor. Science is about physical fact, period. The day physical evidence for God is discovered is the day that God becomes a factor in science.
If something is out of what we can measure and physically observe, is it then out of science?? If so is it a myth?
Have you measured the blackhole? Have you physically observed black hole? Nope, therefore you cant call it science, is it then a myth?
Black holes can't be
directly observed because they don't put off any light (they suck it all in), but their
effects have been observed many times, such as heavy x-ray broadcasts from the super-heated matter (that can also be directly viewed) that circles about the holes event horizon. Cygnus X-1 is one example. Vast amounts of matter from the star Cygnus are spiraling around a central point that isn't part of the star. We can't
see the actual black hole, but it's effects are quite evident. Allow me to illustrate...
You're walking along and I shoot you with a gun. Nobody sees me. Just because nobody could see me do the deed doesn't make you any less dead; the effects of your being shot are just as obvious, regardless of whether somebody saw me or not. Would you claim that your death is a myth?
Have you measured the force that gives us life? Have you physically observed it? Nope, therefore you cant call it science, is it then a myth?
You make a false assumption, that being the fact that there is some quintessential 'lifeforce'. There may or may not be one, but until we find it it's no more than speculation on your part; that definately disqualifies it as science.
As for the existence of biological life, period, we already know how the most basic forms of it came about AND how it evolved into the simplest and most primitive bacteria. Go
here to learn about how that worked.
Still with the same, oft-discredited arguements. How do you manage to walk erect, with the heavy weight of your thick skull to carry?
