Attitudes to rape

I believe the following are mitigating circumstances in rape (see first post):

  • Woman was wearing 'sexy' or revealing clothing.

    Votes: 7 10.6%
  • Woman had many past sexual partners.

    Votes: 7 10.6%
  • Woman was drunk at the time (i.e. got herself drunk).

    Votes: 10 15.2%
  • Woman at no time clearly said "No" to sex.

    Votes: 22 33.3%
  • Woman previously flirted with the rapist.

    Votes: 7 10.6%
  • Woman was in a relationship with the rapist at the time.

    Votes: 10 15.2%
  • Woman was married to the rapist.

    Votes: 13 19.7%
  • Woman had consented to sex with the rapist on another occasion.

    Votes: 10 15.2%
  • Woman had a reputation for being sexually promiscuous.

    Votes: 6 9.1%
  • None of the above.

    Votes: 37 56.1%

  • Total voters
    66
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Interesting. Is that to say that a woman can consent to being raped?
And I will remind you that I've been talking about the USA, not trying to argue for what the rest of the world allows!

I have to repeat what I've known to be true in the past .....no one in the USA can consent to having someone beat the shit out of 'em, even if it's proclaimed to be for sexual fun and games. The S&M crowd has been fighting those type of laws for umpty-eleven years and they ain't gotten anywhere.

Baron Max

yes has long has she knows what is happening and they both agree to a "cut of word" and for the most part for many marrages it works out well, all we have (like you do in USA) have clubs that men and women can go to get whipped and beaten, and humiliated, so why not leave them to do what they like to do without going to far?
 
...we have (like you do in USA) have clubs that men and women can go to get whipped and beaten, and humiliated, so why not leave them to do what they like to do without going to far?

We have no such clubs in the USA! There are so-called S&M clubs around all over the states, but in none of them can anyone beat or whip or otherwise physically "harm" another person ....with or without their consent.

There used to be a PRIVATE club here in Dallas many years ago, but it was shut down because of the laws.

And please don't forget ....there's a big difference between the cops turning a blind eye to such things, and those things being legal.

Baron Max
 
We have no such clubs in the USA! There are so-called S&M clubs around all over the states, but in none of them can anyone beat or whip or otherwise physically "harm" another person ....with or without their consent.

There used to be a PRIVATE club here in Dallas many years ago, but it was shut down because of the laws.

And please don't forget ....there's a big difference between the cops turning a blind eye to such things, and those things being legal.

Baron Max


http://google.wasteland.com/main.html?

that was just one i found!!
 
Interesting. Is that to say that a woman can consent to being raped?

Considering that rape is sex without consent, it would seem a bit silly to say that one can consent to not consent to consenting to non-consensual activities.

We have no such clubs in the USA! There are so-called S&M clubs around all over the states, but in none of them can anyone beat or whip or otherwise physically "harm" another person ....with or without their consent.

You know, based on my experience of industrial/goth clubs, I highly doubt that. I've walked into the bathroom at the Leland (lots of EBM, Detroit place) where there were three lesbians, one's bent over the sink getting spanked while she makes out with the other two. So I'm highly doubting that sadomasochists have some gung-ho approach to following the letter of the law that the rest of us...just lack.


so why not leave them to do what they like to do without going to far?

Well, there's the heart of the matter -- why NOT let people do whatever the fuck they like, just so long as they aren't interfereing with another?
 
You know, based on my experience of industrial/goth clubs, I highly doubt that. I've walked into the bathroom at the Leland (lots of EBM, Detroit place) where there were three lesbians, one's bent over the sink getting spanked while she makes out with the other two. So I'm highly doubting that sadomasochists have some gung-ho approach to following the letter of the law that the rest of us...just lack.

I've seen murder, too, but that doesn't make it any less illegal.

Well, there's the heart of the matter -- why NOT let people do whatever the fuck they like, just so long as they aren't interfereing with another?

Sure ...why not just let people shit on the sidewalks if they want? Why have any social rules and laws at all ...just let anarchy reign supreme?

Baron Max
 
Baron:
I've seen murder, too, but that doesn't make it any less illegal.

I'm not saying that it was legal, dude. You were implying that nobody broke that law -- I said that it's probable that people do.

Sure ...why not just let people shit on the sidewalks if they want?

Typhoid.

Why have any social rules and laws at all ...just let anarchy reign supreme?

I think you missed this:

"Well, there's the heart of the matter -- why NOT let people do whatever the fuck they like, just so long as they aren't interfereing with another?"
 
Those are videos ...fake acting to sell to the weirdos of the world. Or are you one who believes that movies are reality? ...LOL!

Baron Max


oh please you can actually sit there and deniy domination and submission? some people are dominate and submissive by nature!
 
Where did I do that????? Haven't you been reading my posts?

But just because it's done doesn't mean that it's legal.

Baron Max

if its wasnt legal then why arent all the S&M clubs and dungeons here in Blackpool shut down? there must be a reason why they are allowing them to stay open.
 
if its wasnt legal then why arent all the S&M clubs and dungeons here in Blackpool shut down? there must be a reason why they are allowing them to stay open.

Oh, geez, please read my posts!! Several times I said .....illegal in the USA! I don't know if it's legal or not in Eng-fuckin-land or I-fuckin'-ran or any-fuckin'-where else!!! Pay attention ....PLEASE!

Baron Max
 
Oh, geez, please read my posts!! Several times I said .....illegal in the USA! I don't know if it's legal or not in Eng-fuckin-land or I-fuckin'-ran or any-fuckin'-where else!!! Pay attention ....PLEASE!

Baron Max


you have not got to swear at me like i am some child you know, and i donnot appreciate being spoken to like that.

thankyou
 
you have not got to swear at me like i am some child you know, and i donnot appreciate being spoken to like that.

thankyou

I apologize. But you must know that it's gets my goat when I have to repeat myself over and over. But again, I apologize for flying off the handle.

Baron Max
 
I apologize. But you must know that it's gets my goat when I have to repeat myself over and over. But again, I apologize for flying off the handle.

Baron Max

and perhaps i was forgetting that there is about a million miles between us,

but anyway, i dont think these clubs (wherever they may be) should be closed down, if its between to consenting adults then what they do to get excited about sex is up to them.
 
and perhaps i was forgetting that there is about a million miles between us, ...

There's more than that many miles between us!

but anyway, i dont think these clubs (wherever they may be) should be closed down, if its between to consenting adults then what they do to get excited about sex is up to them.

Well, I don't know. I had a friend in Colorado whose wife had once been an S&M advocate and she thought it was fun n' games. Then one night several people tied her up and whipped her ...leaving lifelong scars all over her back and ass and thighs. It was reallly fun for some of those people. What do you think she felt about it later?

Baron Max
 
There's more than that many miles between us!



Well, I don't know. I had a friend in Colorado whose wife had once been an S&M advocate and she thought it was fun n' games. Then one night several people tied her up and whipped her ...leaving lifelong scars all over her back and ass and thighs. It was reallly fun for some of those people. What do you think she felt about it later?

Baron Max


did she go to a club? or was it at home with people she didnt know to well because doing it with people you hardly know is dangerous, and also if you dont like the look of someone then you say "thanks but no thanks" and you walk away, domination is all about trust, trust in the other person not to go to far.
 
did she go to a club? or was it at home with people she didnt know to well because doing it with people you hardly know is dangerous, and also if you dont like the look of someone then you say "thanks but no thanks" and you walk away, domination is all about trust, trust in the other person not to go to far.

Private home; private S&M club; she knew them all; she trusted them all; she yelled "no thanks" very loudly; no one heard or cared; ....;and she ended up scared for life. Fun, huh?

See why it's illegal to consent to such bullshit ....in the USA?

Baron Max
 
Private home; private S&M club; she knew them all; she trusted them all; she yelled "no thanks" very loudly; no one heard or cared; ....;and she ended up scared for life. Fun, huh?

See why it's illegal to consent to such bullshit ....in the USA?

Baron Max

in a club you are given security at no time should bondage be taken home, unless it is with your partner.

i am under the impression Baron Max that you think the human race is bad and there is nothing good about us.
 
i am under the impression Baron Max that you think the human race is bad and there is nothing good about us.

With people like you around, can you blame him?
 
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