For once I agree with Spidergoat. The Constitution does NOT say that. The Declaration of Independence says that. However your basic point is still valid. Atheists do not believe in rights because rights come from God and noone else.
Atheists do NOT have constitutional rights
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Jesus Christ you've turned into a theistical dumbass. As has been stated many times already, that's not a quote from the US constitution. It's from the Declaration of Independence, which is NOT a legal document for America. It has NO authority over our laws, our lawmakers, or ourselves. It CANNOT be cited as precedent or as being binding in a courtroom.
The purpose of the Declaration of Independence was to make a moral case for dissolving the legal ties between the colonies and Great Britain; once that goal was achieved, the official role of the Declaration was FINISHED.
That's equally retarded. Rights are declared, defined, and enforced by humans.
It's more of a statement than a binding document. Besides, the phrase "their creator" could also mean nature or evolution. Notice it doesn't say "The creator".
your info is bit mixed up
FYI
http://www.nobeliefs.com/Tripoli.htm
The U.S. Constitution
The United States Constitution serves as the law of the land for America and indicates the intent of our Founding Fathers. The Constitution forms a secular document, and nowhere does it appeal to God, Christianity, Jesus, or any supreme being. (For those who think the date of the Constitution contradicts the last sentence, see note 1 at the end.) The U.S. government derives from people (not God), as it clearly states in the preamble: "We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect Union...." The omission of God in the Constitution did not come out of forgetfulness, but rather out of the Founding Fathers purposeful intentions to keep government separate from religion.
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The Declaration of Independence
Many Christian's who think of America as founded upon Christianity usually present the Declaration of Independence as "proof" of a Christian America. The reason appears obvious: the Declaration mentions God. (You may notice that some Christians avoid the Constitution, with its absence of God.)
However, the Declaration of Independence does not represent any law of the United States. It came before the establishment of our lawful government (the Constitution). The Declaration aimed at announcing the separation of America from Great Britain and it listed the various grievances with them. The Declaration includes the words, "The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America." The grievances against Great Britain no longer hold today, and we have more than thirteen states.
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Because I don't believe I have a creator means he doesn't exist and I wasn't created by someone? I feel as if I should be choking you while I say this, anyone else feel that way?
Norsefire, spend a little more time collecting accurate data before you start a thersad,
oh man.BOH-Yes. My hands get all twitchy at this foolishness.
Norsefire, I'm glad the townspeople arrested you! Oh! Mega dis!
The creator in the case for Atheists, their parents. So they better respect 'em.
Case closed.
Case closed.
please provide empirical evidence that we are all created equal
I am one those hard edged rational guys that doesn't buy chocolate eggs at Easter
Do women have rights?
Enmos
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Only halve the rights men have..
You consider yourself rational? :roflmao:
He's asking for a sensical enough request; what proof do you have that we are all equal? In fact, we aren't all equal. Apart from obvious Semitic superiority, certain people are more "fit", than others, whether that be in strength, in speed, in intelligence, in relativity to disease, etc