I don't even want to entertain your nonsensical babblings with a response. You frequently ignore my explanations and reassert the same claptrap.
Your core attack directed with the idea scientists discovering god then becoming theists -when they would in fact clearly remain scientists- has been successfully routed. Now I see you have nothing left of substance with not one utterance of a logical proffering.
You even quarrel with the definition guidelines set down by the moderators of this forum and the contexts they choose for terminology for this board. Are there no lows you will not drop to?
Don't attack the messenger, attack the topic in a scientific, coherent way (sciforums.com)
If not believing god exists is narrow minded then I am happy to be it lol.
Scientific avenues are open. Mumbo jumbo bullshit is offbounds on a science forum?
"tran·scen·den·tal
/ˌtrænsɛnˈdɛntl, -sən-/ Show Spelled[tran-sen-den-tl, -suhn-] Show IPA
–adjective
1.
transcendent, surpassing, or superior.
2.
being beyond ordinary or common experience, thought, or belief; supernatural.
3.
abstract or metaphysical.
4.
idealistic, lofty, or extravagant.
5.
Philosophy .
a.
beyond the contingent and accidental in human experience, but not beyond all human knowledge. Compare transcendent ( def. 4b ) .
b.
pertaining to certain theories, etc., explaining what is objective as the contribution of the mind.
c.
Kantianism . of, pertaining to, based upon, or concerned with a priori elements in experience, which condition human knowledge. Compare transcendent ( def. 4b ) . "
""If you have within your imagination other ideas of what God is, or could be,
be my guest..""
I do actually. Something that could blow the whole thing open. But I wouldn't leak it to religious types as they would just use it to manipulate.
Not ideals. SCIENCE.
""An atheist will not find God, because an atheist has no interest in finding God. An atheist wants what he wants, and doesn't really know what to do beyond that.""
Already addressed this point. You are very good at ignoring a opposing point, does it take practice?
I made points and you made points. I counter your points but you ask me to make new ones when I have already made the relevant ones which you have chosen to ignore. Weak. Look to your own ability to win a debate . . .
Hypothetically: When god is real and not imaginary he will be a subject of science and not theism.
Can you give me evidence of god please because I am all out. Your stance is ridiculous.
Your questing is totally illogical and any scientist would be unable to engage in this talking for talkings sake.
The only question you offered in your last post that I haven't already addressed in this thread is this one:
"is he saying; 'here is some physical evidence, this is god, but he is not trancendental as believed by religions,
and defined in scriptures'?"
If you define god as being beyond physical. Let me explain something to you. Everything is anchored in the physical. That is SCIENCE. That is what we are here to address. Infinity is a physical existence. If you look to an imaginary mode of existence to explain the universe then atoms may as well all be pink elephants.
Hence you are the one outside of science. My argument is firmly rooted in science so your closing claims are again non-sensical.
Your core attack directed with the idea scientists discovering god then becoming theists -when they would in fact clearly remain scientists- has been successfully routed. Now I see you have nothing left of substance with not one utterance of a logical proffering.
You even quarrel with the definition guidelines set down by the moderators of this forum and the contexts they choose for terminology for this board. Are there no lows you will not drop to?
Don't attack the messenger, attack the topic in a scientific, coherent way (sciforums.com)
If not believing god exists is narrow minded then I am happy to be it lol.
Scientific avenues are open. Mumbo jumbo bullshit is offbounds on a science forum?
"tran·scen·den·tal
/ˌtrænsɛnˈdɛntl, -sən-/ Show Spelled[tran-sen-den-tl, -suhn-] Show IPA
–adjective
1.
transcendent, surpassing, or superior.
2.
being beyond ordinary or common experience, thought, or belief; supernatural.
3.
abstract or metaphysical.
4.
idealistic, lofty, or extravagant.
5.
Philosophy .
a.
beyond the contingent and accidental in human experience, but not beyond all human knowledge. Compare transcendent ( def. 4b ) .
b.
pertaining to certain theories, etc., explaining what is objective as the contribution of the mind.
c.
Kantianism . of, pertaining to, based upon, or concerned with a priori elements in experience, which condition human knowledge. Compare transcendent ( def. 4b ) . "
""If you have within your imagination other ideas of what God is, or could be,
be my guest..""
I do actually. Something that could blow the whole thing open. But I wouldn't leak it to religious types as they would just use it to manipulate.
Not ideals. SCIENCE.
""An atheist will not find God, because an atheist has no interest in finding God. An atheist wants what he wants, and doesn't really know what to do beyond that.""
Already addressed this point. You are very good at ignoring a opposing point, does it take practice?
I made points and you made points. I counter your points but you ask me to make new ones when I have already made the relevant ones which you have chosen to ignore. Weak. Look to your own ability to win a debate . . .
Hypothetically: When god is real and not imaginary he will be a subject of science and not theism.
Can you give me evidence of god please because I am all out. Your stance is ridiculous.
Your questing is totally illogical and any scientist would be unable to engage in this talking for talkings sake.
The only question you offered in your last post that I haven't already addressed in this thread is this one:
"is he saying; 'here is some physical evidence, this is god, but he is not trancendental as believed by religions,
and defined in scriptures'?"
If you define god as being beyond physical. Let me explain something to you. Everything is anchored in the physical. That is SCIENCE. That is what we are here to address. Infinity is a physical existence. If you look to an imaginary mode of existence to explain the universe then atoms may as well all be pink elephants.
Hence you are the one outside of science. My argument is firmly rooted in science so your closing claims are again non-sensical.