Originally posted by answers
Right now I'm studying atheisim, so I'll have lots more stuff to post in the future. But next time I'll be asking the questions...so I suggest that you go out and study your atheisim books as well.
As far as I know, atheists don't have books - in fact they consider the need for a book to explain life a repugnant idea. Why can't 95% of the population seem to be able to disprove the other 5%? Why are they considered equal if the numbers are on YOUR side? I'm not sure how agnostics fit in, but since you seem to have evidence of god's existance I'll assume I'm on the other side of the argument for now.
So far in my life I've been used to convert one atheist to Christ. I pray that in the years to come, that number will be in the thousands.
Keep dreaming. True atheists and agnostics will never convert to theism, the people you are converting are probably adolescents who hate their lives and have done no rational thinking on the topic. You may consider them very small victories.
This also generates another fuming question I must ask - who are you to force your beliefs on others? It is people like you trying to preach your theistic worldview to the public that causes religious wars and evil to surface where there was only contentment.
God willing, I hope that you see what so many others have seen.
You cannot use your numbers as an argument as long as you continue to force your children to believe what you believe. You dont even give them a choice. I was never given a choice. I broke out anyway. I consider myself a better person because of it. I am never turning back to the Christian cult, because I can now see it for what it is, and nothing more.
Right now you are blind and in sin, but you feel free. It's one of the biggest lies atheists have believed, that Christianity is slavery and death to freedom.
Christianity will always bring evil into the world because its main doctrines force its followers to recruit others. The whole process seems like an ego trip anyway - competing to see how many people you can convert. It's a disgusting habit. A majority of Christians go through life without ever questioning their religion. How can you be sure something is right unless you question it yourself? What if a majority of these people decided to convert? You don't like that idea, do you? No, better get them before they get us. Animals. I suppose it's easier to preach peace and love instead of doing something to make it happen - like shut your mouth and let people be happy on their own.
The bible says that you are slaves to sin. And I'd like to know of anyone here that can honestly say they can stop sinning whenever they want to. Because you simply cannot. Therefore you are slaves to it.
You get your ideas of 'sin' from the bible. The weakness of your argument therefore lies in the bible. Now, since I don't have 95% of the world behind me and I don't have volumes of texts of excuses for my behavior, I won't win in a debate over the bible. But the fact that I can even come close really has to say something about the people who wrote it. (Note: PEOPLE, not god.) How can we be sure that the bible is the uncorrupted word of god? Actually, how can we prove it isn't completely corrupted by human vices? How can we prove a damn thing about it? Don't bother dumping another 100 pages of useless references, I want to see you argue this one yourself.
What kind of freedom is that? Once Christ enters your life, you are no longer slaves to sin, but slaves to God. I think I'd rather be a slave/servant to light, rather then a slave/servant to darkness.
But thats just me!
Then you are beyond reason, and I am obviously wasting my time arguing with you. You're too deep into the Christian cult to realize what it's doing to your mind. What is the driving factor to 'sin'? Natural ambition, natural guiding forces. You are in no way a slave to forces that come naturally, you are obeying your own reasoning to see that it is the right thing to do, if only at that time. And what does a slavery to god teach us? To restain, hold back, refrain from anything that we might have considered a good thing. That sounds more like a slavery to me.
As an agnostic, I am admitting that I do not have proof either way. However, from an objective standpoint, it appears to be more practical - if only for those few logical people in the population - to not be theist. Following any religion that can generate so much evil in the name of good and light is a ticking timebomb to society. You'll have to forgive me if I don't want to be a part of it.
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