michael_taylor
Registered Senior Member
That makes you sound like a dick. Sorry for mentioning it, but I thought you should know.
Are We Going to War With Iran?
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That makes you sound like a dick. Sorry for mentioning it, but I thought you should know.
You're absolutely correct, I don't disagree. The whole post was pompous and arrogant.
Perhaps I was being a dick, but when he tells me I live in a fantasy world, I tend to take offense. So, it is best to analyze why, shed my ego hence forth from the relationship, and base it only on the facts.
So I ended my post with a out right proposal of a truce of sorts. The best analysis of reality is one that is born out by the transpiring of events. So far, that has been mine. :m:
Perhaps I was being a dick, but when he tells me I live in a fantasy world, I tend to take offense. So, it is best to analyze why, shed my ego hence forth from the relationship, and base it only on the facts.
So I ended my post with a out right proposal of a truce of sorts. The best analysis of reality is one that is born out by the transpiring of events. So far, that has been mine. :m:
michael_taylor
Registered Senior Member
Do the same thing myself sometimes.
Combined with a recognition of the fact that no person has the complete picture of what events really are transpiring, that approach appears adequate.
Please consider the possibility that even if you should genuinely happen to see through some subterfuge which has convinced whichever person you were lambasting, there may be more layers of subterfuge than you immediately realise.
no i think the asshats berating iran are willing to risk war through their assholeness. I ran like any country has the right to protect itsself
Oh absolutely!
This is very wise. I love the way you think, for it is one of my axioms. Before I even start reading a source, I first try to determine the author, where the author is from, where the author was educated, and who is paying the author, (how the author makes their living, their motivation, etc.)
One must always consider the motivation of the source. On top of this, one must consider that many authors may be fed information that is misleading, and many investigative journalists may believe their own reports. Some of the best reports that are false reports are ones where the reporters believe their own reports. This is the whole theory behind the mainstream media. Look at "embedded journalists." Mainstream media is not completely useless. What does manufactured news tell us? There are things in lies that tell us things as well.
It's best to go with the old axiom, "Within all information there exists disinformation, and within all disinformation there exists information."
Sorry to snap your attention back to reality, but there have been no false flag attacks on Iran from the USS Enterprise to date.
Right you are. That's the whole point. These type of "alerts" have been posted before. And they have, one can argue, prevented such things. What if lots of people had taken William Cooper seriously? What if word had gotten out? We might have had a totally different history! People with in our government might not have dared do what they did to the world on 9/11 if everyone was expecting it to come.
Who's going to agree to a world wide terror war when we all know who did it and why, because we were expecting it?William Cooper predicted 9/11
No sir, we will not tolerate it anymore. We will be the ones to determine our history now. We will be the ones to get the word out and tell the people what they are planning. If the people know what they are planning before hand, the government is much less likely to do it. Do you think I am the only one that raises awareness? If enough people act, we can avoid war.
The United States, and the West. . . THEY are the aggressors here.
NAM condemns drone incursion into Iran
The RQ-170 Sentinel stealth aircraft was downed by Iran's armed forces in the east of the country on December 4, 2011.
. . . so yeah, I guess, ummmm, you're welcome
That just makes your opinions impossible to falsify by default. If you posit some conspiracy and it actually comes true, you would rightfully get credit for being correct. If it doesn't come to pass as has pretty much been the case with every James Bond plot you've suggested so far, you claim that bringing the alleged conspiracy to the public's attention helps prevent it from happening. Predict something drastically shocking and audacious that doesn't make it into the mainstream media until after the fact, and I'll actually take you seriously for once.
I don't really care captain. My ego isn't the point here. I know, many of you are concerned with being "right." That has never been my goal, or my objective. I am more concerned with keeping the world out of another major war. I, and many like me, have known that it has been the goal of the globalists since the fall of 2001 to create the right circumstances for a world socialists/fascist dictatorship, and a final confrontation. . . either a global currency, or a WWIII if you will. They have been thwarted at every juncture. If you care not to believe, it really is not my concern.
The fact that there is not as yet a world currency, or the fact that war with Iran has so far been averted? Just means we have been doing our job. My ego is unimportant, I don't care what you think. So many good people have fallen in this "information battle," and so many more I expect will continue to fall. . . We have been winning.
Why do you think the laws have been getting more and more draconian? Why do you think they have been trying to take more and more measures to stop the free flow of information? You don't actually think SOPA and PIPA were really about "pirated" movies, music and software do you? And when they couldn't do it through national legal means, they will subvert U.S. national sovereignty and use ACTA and do it through extra legal means, anything to try to shut down those who are trying to tell the truth. Just wait.
Much like everything written in the MSM. The government says it is so, so it is the truth. It doesn't matter that the government has been found and proved to be deceiving the population innumerable times, and has no compunction against doing so when it is perceived to be for it's policy interests. In fact, this is standard operating procedure. You're obtuse if you think it is any other way. We have had presidents be assassinated that have stood against this way of doing things.
ex;
The military made a raid on Osama bin Laden and dumped his body at sea. . . the 9/11 commission said this. . . NIST said that. . . etc. . .
w/e . . .
Lack of war isn't peace and should not be our highest priority.
The repugnant theocratic dictatorship of Iran deserves to be hated.
And it seems Israel's government is now well on the way to duplicating their success, so why complain? Doesn't seem to me like America is terribly interested in getting involved in this conflict especially after the mess in Iraq, and I can't blame them. Sanctions will be much more effective in any case- an Israeli attack won't have much effect in the long term other than delaying things a few months at best, costing them a big suicidal chunk of their air force, and pissing off hundreds of millions or billions around the globe.
Osama Bin Laden Dead Since 2001 (Benazir Bhutto Says Osama Bin Laden Dead In 2007)
What do you know? Nothing. You have no expert credentials. You know shit. When people talk about shit they shouldn't, people die.
They did her in the same way they did in William Cooper.
Axiomatic.
Yes they are involved. Obama has stated that nothing is off the table. The covert war has already begun. We hope sanctions will be effective, but one never knows.