Are Christians nihilists?

[StrangerInAStrangeLand]

Cameras do not perceive anything.

Feel free to divulge your idea.
Bonus points if you can explain it in a fashion that doesn't link perception with consciousness.

You made a fantastic claim. You explain it.

 

[lightgigantic]

Its "jurisdiction" being anything which can be observed, directly or indirectly.

more specifically, our abilities of observation, which automatically precludes issues pertaining to our origins and consciousness.

 

[lightgigantic]

You made a fantastic claim. You explain it.

On the contrary, you're the one suggesting cameras do not have any perception issues ....

:shrug:

 

[Cris]

lg,

I am simply pointing out that yours is an assumption, since empiricism (your modus operandi on the subject) doesn't even lay these subjects on the horizon, what to speak of the table.

Which is simply an evasive statement to avoid saying that yes you do believe that the cause of consciousness must lie outside of the brain. If the brain is the cause then empiricsm is the appropriate approach. But yet you still stumble over showing any meaningful alternative despite your loud bravado in dissing empiricsm.

 

[lightgigantic]

lg,

Which is simply an evasive statement to avoid saying that yes you do believe that the cause of consciousness must lie outside of the brain.

Actually its a very precise manner of explaining why there is no merit to the empirical claim that consciousness lies within the physicality of the brain.

IOW if you want to talk empiricism, you certainly can't talk consciousness so the buck stops there.

If the brain is the cause then empiricsm is the appropriate approach.

Fine

Continue further research.

Until you get results suspend your reductionist views though.

But yet you still stumble over showing any meaningful alternative despite your loud bravado in dissing empiricsm.

The beginning of an alternative would be to understand the futility of empiricism in investigating such a manner.

IOW for as long as one insists on measuring all alternatives to an empirical paradigm with an empirical paradigm, trying to see what we are seeing with is as meaningful as trying to jump over one's knees.