Alzheimer's Helmet

draqon said:
non-ionizing radiation is a lower spectrum electromagnetic radiation

ionizing radiation is a higher spectrum electromagnetic radiation that ionizes atoms and molecules
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No, "spectrum" (frequency) has nothing to do with it. Ionizing radiation is high-energy atomic particles.

but this is not a point, you say this non-ionizing radiation is harmless, if such was so than this helmet will be useless as for it to have an effect on anything in the brain it needs to create a change or interact with the brain, all this interaction might help the Alzheimer's but has effect on other parts of the brain as well. The brain has a homeostasis complex system, such alterations are by themselves dangerous.
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It's actually not much more than the effect you would get from a sunlamp, a heating pad or an electric blanket. From everything I've read so far, the only difference is that it's used in a "burst mode" for relatively short intervals.
 
Magnetic fields can induce current even in human body - that is simple physics. While they can be in microamperes, I am sure it can interfere with brains normal firing of nurons. People have gotten cancers and headaches who work in a high ampere (90K to 120K) environment such as Aluminium or Magnesium metal plants.
 
kmguru said:
Magnetic fields can induce current even in human body - that is simple physics. While they can be in microamperes, I am sure it can interfere with brains normal firing of nurons. People have gotten cancers and headaches who work in a high ampere (90K to 120K) environment such as Aluminium or Magnesium metal plants.
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The difference being those are VERY powerful fields. Nothing anywhere close to that is created by ordinary permanent "therapeutic" magnets - that's the ones that I said cannot even penetrate beyond the first skin layer. They have absolutely NO effect on any part of the human body. The only people selling/promoting the things are scam artists. Talk to ANY doctor - preferably one in a radiological field, like MRIs, etc.

And I would also like to see solid proof of that last statement.

Oh, and that first statement is inaccurate as it stands - that applies ONLY to fields in motion, such as generated by an electromagnet.
 
Read-Only said:
Oh, and that first statement is inaccurate as it stands - that applies ONLY to fields in motion, such as generated by an electromagnet.
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Fields in motion or conductors in motion as in people moving in and around the field...blood flowing...
 
kmguru said:
Fields in motion or conductors in motion as in people moving in and around the field...blood flowing...
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I understand that perfectly but it has very little effect at all.

Now - I asked politely for references - do you actually have any?

And what's with using the blue gunk? Ordinary black is easier on the eyes, if you please. Why did you switch all of a sudden??????
 
Read-Only said:
Now - I asked politely for references - do you actually have any?
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You mean a Physics book ? I am sure you will find one in the library. As far as how electrons conduct in the body, you may have to find books on Neuropathy and Nerve Conduction. If you have a medical college close by, the library would have a lot of text books in neuroscience. Also do some research in Google...you may find a lot.

Also try "Cellular Biophysics" Volume 2 by T. F. Weiss.

Then you have to connect the dots....there may be some research papers on "effect of high magnetic fields on human tissue"...Google has a lot of quality hits icluding papers from University of Karlsruhe, Germany
 
what are you looking for, i will check my medical books and see if i can find an answer for you
 
kmguru said:
You mean a Physics book ? I am sure you will find one in the library. As far as how electrons conduct in the body, you may have to find books on Neuropathy and Nerve Conduction. If you have a medical college close by, the library would have a lot of text books in neuroscience. Also do some research in Google...you may find a lot.

Also try "Cellular Biophysics" Volume 2 by T. F. Weiss.

Then you have to connect the dots....there may be some research papers on "effect of high magnetic fields on human tissue"...Google has a lot of quality hits icluding papers from University of Karlsruhe, Germany
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That's not what I'm talking about and I think you know it. I asked for proof of this statement of yours, "People have gotten cancers and headaches who work in a high ampere (90K to 120K) environment such as Aluminium or Magnesium metal plants."

I don't intend to search for anything - it was your statement so it's up to you to substantiate it. Quite frankly, I don't believe it.
 
Asguard said:
what are you looking for, i will check my medical books and see if i can find an answer for you
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That's quite nice of you, Asguard, but I believe you will find nothing (see my previous post). He's the one that made the claim so let's see if he can prove it.

I'm just like you were about the hybrid seeds thing - I believe he's wrong but if he can prove it I will not hesitate to apologize. :)

Edit: if there is anything at all to his claim, it will be due to the noxious fumes present in such places. There have been NUMEROUS studies conducted that have tried to link cancer to electromagnetic fields and not one of them have had positive results. Some people have suspected for years that those living near high-powered electric transmission lines (carrying FAR more power than what he mentioned) cause cancer - but it has NEVER been shown to be true.
 
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i offered because unlike the farming thing i actually have a set of books on medical biology:p well one book on bioscience (ie A&P), one on one pathopysiology, one on mental health, one on medical ethics, one on paramedic health and a few on medical resurch and life development:D
 
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The difference being those are VERY powerful fields. Nothing anywhere close to that is created by ordinary permanent "therapeutic" magnets - that's the ones that I said cannot even penetrate beyond the first skin layer. They have absolutely NO effect on any part of the human body. The only people selling/promoting the things are scam artists. Talk to ANY doctor - preferably one in a radiological field, like MRIs, etc.

And I would also like to see solid proof of that last statement.

Oh, and that first statement is inaccurate as it stands - that applies ONLY to fields in motion, such as generated by an electromagnet.
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It all depends on how strong the magnetic field is - we use magnetic therapy here in Denmark every day for severe depression - seems to have fewer side effects than ECT (which we also use) ..........

http://www.cnn.com/HEALTH/9803/20/magnets.depression/
 
Asguard said:
i offered because unlike the farming thing i actually have a set of books on medical biology:p well one book on bioscience (ie A&P), one on one pathopysiology, one on mental health, one on medical ethics, one on paramedic health and a few on medical resurch and life development:D
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That's very good!

By all means, take a look, but I don't think you'll find anything that backs him up.
 
ok HERE is one study i have found that SEEMS To A) be talking about the right subject and B) from what i can see it SEEMS to be a legit source

havent read the whole thing as to which way it will go:p

THIS page sugests that the findings of there study were negitive but im not paying to read it

THIS one is from the BMJ so it will be relyable but again i havent read it:p

THIS one is a wikapedia artical so its relyability is suspect
 
oh dam wrong subject
thought i was looking for the eficasy of magnetic treatment

my bad
 
ok try that again

THIS is from the national cancer inistute of the US (im assuming the last bit based on it having no country mark in its web address)

Not sure who THIS one is from

THIS one is from a goverment site in Australia so it should be relyable
 
Asguard said:
ok try that again

THIS is from the national cancer inistute of the US (im assuming the last bit based on it having no country mark in its web address)

Not sure who THIS one is from

THIS one is from a goverment site in Australia so it should be relyable
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Nice work, Asguard - as I said before, proud of you! ;)

You'll note that not a single one of those help his claim but rather support what I said - that several studies have been conducted and found no link between cancer and electromagnetic (AC power) fields.

And incidentally, I'll go ahead and point out that the two process he claimed were causing cancer actually use DC power and NOT AC current.

So now let's see what he has to say for himself, eh?
 
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