Its a requirement of grammar.what is god? lots of people talk as if they can define him (it), or should be able to. why?
IOW if you have a noun with no qualities you bypass semantics and discussion as a whole.
Its a requirement of grammar.what is god? lots of people talk as if they can define him (it), or should be able to. why?
what is god? lots of people talk as if they can define him (it), or should be able to. why?
do you ever really know everything about anyone?
we know something about someone in order to have a relationshipyou don't have to be able to define it to know it. you can know what's relevant to your relationship, and know things about it. do you ever really know everything about anyone?
if you have a scale of intimacy that runs like thisdo you have to know everything about someone to appreciate what you do know about them?
surei think faith might be a judgement call based upon what you do know. i think god is something that we may not be able to fully understand given our condition and experience.
Even if one says that nothing is not god or god is nothing one is still hedging on one particular definition over anotherthere's just nothing else we have to relate it to or compare it to...measure it. i mean look at religion (any). people are so damn narrow minded. they all own god, telling the rest of us what he is and what he is not.
because if one has a heart that is overtaken by material desires, there will be an unhealthy amount of personal ambition mixed in with all one's spiritual endeavours.speaking for him like he would need some interpreter. he has an interpreter already. it's the holy spirit which can speak directly to you, so why rely on someone else's opinion or definition of what god is and what he can do.
surei don't have to understand how god does everything to be able to appreciate what he does.
in theology i gues they call it 'omnipotence'I was thinking again about the ALL-POWERFUL and ALL-KNOWING God again and I just couldn't remember our last debate so I thought I'd bring up a couple of points.
1) God is defined as ALL POWERFUL (can do anything)
2) God is defined as ALL KNOWING (knows everything)
God ain't definable in a single book; some of mankind believe that is so.But, we know humans can doing things god, in these states of being, can not do - like learn. We can learn. God can not learn.
you limit god to a single isolated man/soul/zeus/guy with fire in his nose (heck i don't know)...... but to fit the 'alpha/omega..begin/ending...etc...etc...etc.... perhaps the whole of existence fits up quite nicely to assist in comprehending the metaphor of GodWhat else?
We can think. God can not think. Also thinking is a rational process. God therefor is not rational because It can not think. It can only be in the state of ALL KNOWING.
We can Laugh in surprise at a funny joke. God is humorless. It can not be surprised by the ending of a joke. It does not laugh. It can only exist in the state of ALL-KNOWING.
We feel emotion. Emotion is a change in mental state. God never has a change in mental state. It exists in only the ALL-KNOWING mental state. It has no emotions. It is unemotional.
We feel sensation. Sensation is a change in neural conduction registered as a change in mental state. God is in a constant state of numbness. It can not "feel" as it's mental state is only in one position - - that of ALL-KNOWING.
It doesn't learn, love, hate, feel feelings, feel warmth .... nothing. It just exists as an ALL-KNOWING Thing.
Aside from the fact that we humans being able to do some many things a purportedly ALL POWERFUL God is POWERLESS to do, I'd like to say this God is a f*cking creepy thing to worship.
submission is only to realize if you don't wash the bowl, it will be dirtyIt's also pointless to worship It as you can have ZERO affect on it's mental State - which stays at all times and forever in only one immutable state: ALL-KNOWING.
the internet?????That aside, God is a thing that ONLY exists in the state ALL KNOWING like some huge computer Hard-Drive. God is this massive information storage device. A humorlessness, numb, emotionally dead, cold, impassive, unfeeling, irrational ALL-KNOWING Thing. An extremely large USB stick.
THIS Thing, someone suggested is BETTER because it exists like this?!?!
Well I don't think so,
Michael
You guys are so stupid, I don't even want to laugh at you because I'm scared God will punish me.
All Knowing means that he knows everything you do bad or good. Is it really that hard to understand?
All Powerful means he has power that you non believers will never see until the end of time. Ill give you the "All Powerful" one because that one took me a minute to put it in common sense.
you get to know god just like you get to know anything else. it's that simple. sure, you can read someone's biography, or autobiography, or look at their works...that's a form of knowledge. but if you actually interact with someone, and experience their presence or personality...have to share your life with them on a daily basis, you know them in depth.
you still don't know everything. you would have to become someone else to know them entirely. and i would argue, as it was said, that we don't even entirely know ourselves.
you get to know god just like you get to know anything else. it's that simple. sure, you can read someone's biography, or autobiography, or look at their works...that's a form of knowledge. but if you actually interact with someone, and experience their presence or personality...have to share your life with them on a daily basis, you know them in depth.
you still don't know everything. you would have to become someone else to know them entirely. and i would argue, as it was said, that we don't even entirely know ourselves.
How do you know you in fact know God, and not someone or something else who poses as God?
And also, how do you know it's not simply your imagination and wishful thinking making you think you know God?
you just know. turns out god is who (and how) he says he is, and not how a lot of people want to say he is. it's like not needing a paternity test to know who your father is. he proves himself. and i really don't like refering to him as a "he, him" it just works in a sentence is all. it's apparent to me that he is much more than a mere being. god is everything. god is law and works like science with a perfect purpose and infinite means. it's cool.
you know signal...that's not going to help.
you just know. turns out god is who (and how) he says he is, and not how a lot of people want to say he is. it's like not needing a paternity test to know who your father is. he proves himself. and i really don't like refering to him as a "he, him" it just works in a sentence is all. it's apparent to me that he is much more than a mere being. god is everything. god is law and works like science with a perfect purpose and infinite means. it's cool.
Just like your explanation on who is God isn't helping.
as your post shares just how 'cool' you are....
Peace to you Lori!
may i ask, is God; 'the garden' to you? (existence itself/mothernature; all of it as ONE)
i'm saying i can't define god and i'm not quite sure it's possible given a human perception. it's honest. that doesn't mean god doesn't exist. would you like me to lie? maybe god is a force. maybe god is law. maybe god is everything and everyone. what i do know is that there are dimensions that i can't see. i've had spiritual interactions, answered prayers, prophetic visions and dreams. i've even channelled a spirit (not on purpose but i was willing). these things mean something to me. it's been way more than i could attempt to ignore. and it's been like putting together a jigsaw puzzle with an infinite amount of little pieces to get the bigger picture. i've experienced things that have literally blown my mind to bits, having to clean up the mess and recover.
What disturbs is that in the name of such a vaguely hinted at God, you are willing to declare eternal damnation to everyone who doesn't believe in God the way you do.