And He (i.e., Allah) it is Who created the night and the day, the sun and the moon. They float, each in a falak (The Noble Quran, 21:33). [/B]
Ibn Taymiyah continues: The [word] falak [in the Arabic language] means that which is round.
In an earlier passage (Vol. 6, pp. 565-566), Ibn Taymiyah discusses why those on the other side of the earth are not below us, just like we are not below them. He writes:
As for the other side of the earth it is surrounded by water. [Note: Admittedly, Ibn Taymiyah - as all Muslim scholars of his day- were not aware of the Americas and believed that the Old World was encompassed by an ocean.] There are no human beings or anything like that [on that side]. Even if we were to imagine that people were on that side of the earth, such individuals would still be on the face of the earth. Those on that side of the earth are not below those who are on this side; just like those on this side are not below those on that side. For as all spherical bodies surround a center point (markaz), no one side of a spherical body is under the other, nor is the north pole under the south [Note: Unlike Western maps, Muslim cartographers (map-makers) would draw the world with the south-side up.] or vice versa.
In another passage (Vol. 5, p. 150) Ibn Taymiyah clearly states the earth is spherical.
Significantly Abu Ya'la in his work Tabaqatal-Hanabilah (Biographical Entries of the Hanabali Scholars) quotes the unanimous consensus (ijma) of all Muslim scholars that the earth is round.
This consensus was mentioned by the scholars of the second generation (the students of the Prophet's Companions) and was based upon Ibn Abbas' explanation to 21:33 (previously cited) and other evidences.
The later belief of Muslim scholars, like as-Suyuti (died 911 AH / 1505 CE) that the earth is flat represents a deviation from this earlier opinion.
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actually, if you read it it doesn't mention a cycle in these koran quotes, but that water goes from the clouds to the ground. Not back up.
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G W:
Do you understand English????? here the verses from the Quran again:
In chapter 23, verse 18, "We sent down water from the sky measure and lodged it in the ground and we certainly are able to withdraw it"
and also in chapter 24, verse 43, "Have you not seen that God makes the clouds move gently, then joins them together, then makes them a heap. And you see rain drops falling from the midst of it ........"
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mountains are not placed, they are folded.
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G W:
Folded??????? and you claim you are scientist??????? huh ???
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not correct
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G W:
scientists pointed out recently that salt water and fresh water do not mix.........saying not correct make you look like small child who want to defy the rules........general rants are NOT accepted.
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this is so unlogical that I can't bother to refute it.
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G W:
In chapter 21, verse 30, it also says: '.....And We made every living thing from water. Will they still not believe".
Can you imagine that in the deserts of Arabia, where there is obviously a scarcity of water, who would have guessed that not only man but every living thing is made from water ???????????
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it doesn't say that.
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G W:
It certainly does: here it is again specially for my scientist FRIEND:
The scientist: all our continents were at one time parts of one consolidated land mass, then following an explosion, they were scattered or rather pushed away all over the surface of the earth. Therefore if you look carefully at the world map, you would see for example that the East coast of South America would fit neatly against the West coast of Africa.
Yunus: A similar idea is reflected in the Holy Quraan in the chapter 79, verse 30, "and the earth He extended after that and then drew from it water and pastures". It says that the Earth passed through a stage when God had caused the land masses to drift apart.
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I can't be bothered to do more, because anyone with any education can tell it is nonsense
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G W:
SURE, Any one with STUPID ATHEIST MIND will say the same thing when he is confronted with FACTS.
ATHEISM SUCKS AND SO ARE THE HOPELESS SOULS THAT FOLLOW SUCH PATHETIC NONESNE.
Salam( peace).
I hope you are not ashamed of whatever you have converted to. Since, I am a muslim convert and I don't have a problem admiting it. Anyway, you are trying really hard to prove your points and I respect your devotion, but there is more in Quran and religion then simply copying and pasting from different websites. Mainly anti Islamic and then for green world anti chrisitan. There is a translation and the commentry on Quran by "Mulana Mudadi", which I read and I think it is one of the best source to see the back ground of each and every verse and chapters. Why, they were revealed and when and what is their significance. You can never learned any religion from "Internet" and speicaly from anti and pro religion websites, atleast I can't. Same thing goes for Green World, if he is going to criticize christianity or athiesm, he need to do more then copying and pasting.