In this case, what's the difference? My opinion is reasonable as explained. Please attempt to dispute a point. It would behoove your argument to present the basis for your assertion.Originally posted by Jan Ardena
You gave an opinion, not an explanation.
Because:Originally posted by Jan Ardena
Then why waste time arguing.
- I enjoy antagonizing you, you're an easy target and IMO, the funniest thing about you in particular is that you're really kind of angry most of the time that people like me are messing with you, yet you still sign your posts "love". It is incredibly transparent. I find it deliciously hypocritical.
- I enjoy the scope of social interaction at sciforums.
- I enjoy the mental excercise.
- I enjoy exploring interesting topics.
LOL.. okay Jan, you busted me. Oh man, you're so pissed off! Hehe, just think of jesus jan. That should calm you down. Hehe.. Uhm.. Jan, I don't mean to freak you out here but uhm.. I have never wasted a minute of my life. Can you understand that? I challenge you miss love, to wrap your mind around how I might constrew that I've never wasted a minute of my life. I don't think you can do it.Originally posted by Jan Ardena
It would appear you are the idiot for wasting precious time
This should be a clue to you.Originally posted by Jan Ardena
vehemently arguing
Oh Janny, you don't understand! If I'm pissed, I get angry and then I get over it. Zero baggage. I argue with you and call you names sometimes because I'm so frustrated... my mind bloody from flailing itself against your THICK SKULL. When I think about it later, I find the frailty of my humanity most amusing. I consider it part of what I think of as the "cosmic joke". I fully embrace it.Originally posted by Jan Ardena
with severe negative emotion
No Jan, it's your ability to think that I have no respect for, not the topic in general. You probaby won't get this, but just because I think you're stupid doesn't mean I don't respect you.Originally posted by Jan Ardena
about something you have “no” respect for.
On what basis Jan? Unfounded claims seem to be your forte` sweetie.Originally posted by Jan Ardena
That is total nonsense.
Then who is the idiot for wasting their time?Originally posted by Jan Ardena
I do not respect your bits and peices intellect either
Jan, I've explained it multiple times on this site. If you're actually interested, wade through my posts and find it. Otherwise, I'll not waste my time with your insincerity (though it is also deliciously hypocritical).Originally posted by Jan Ardena
and as for your belief system, faith in reason, what does that actually mean?
No, that's not all I do Jan, but it is part of it. I don't pretend to love you. I judge your words. I do not know you. If I did I might judge you, but I'm wise enough to know that my judgement doesn't really count for much except for when you're dealing with me. Do you see a lesson in that? Hehehehe.. I doubt you do.Originally posted by Jan Ardena
All you do is pass judgement and spew insult, and if you manage to intimidate someone into some sort of compromise, then the insults may become milder.
Where do you want it sweetheart? Do you even know what it is? What if I am showing you great respect and you don't see it because my approach to everything is so different from yours? Can you even see how that could be possible?Originally posted by Jan Ardena
Where is the respect?
Does being called stuff actually hurt you? Do you take responsibility for your reaction to comments or do you blame everyone else for your problems?
And further, I've already told you: I do not respect your ability to think. You're quite bad at it from what I can tell. You can't see that I don't really care about all that? I don't know you Jan. I just see words. I hate your words because to me they appear despicably hypocritical and well, basically retarded. I enjoy them for the same reason.
I respect it when I see signs of a cogent argument. Hence my lack of respect for your words.Originally posted by Jan Ardena
Or another question, what kind of respect is it?
You're certainly living a happy fantasy aren't you? Hehe.. you forgot Whatsup? There have been many like him.Originally posted by Jan Ardena
One thing which is apparent on this board, is that most (if not all) the people who express belief in God and spirituality, have a very good visible standard of respect to others, irregardless of their mind-set.
Regardless, Jan it's hallarious to me that in the same post you say "people who express belief in God and spirituality, have a very good visible standard of respect to others" in the same post that you tell me "It would appear you are the idiot for wasting precious time" and "you are one of the most ignorant people on this board". No doubt I have pressed you to make such comments, but do you see the hypocracy? Jan, it's obvious, you seeth behind your auspices of love. I find that telling. I'm sure you'll make up something as to why it isn't.
I don't like their book. Seems to breed ignorance. *looks at Jan like "hey, there's a good example"* I could be nicer sometimes Jan I know. I am a jerk sometimes. I accept it. Do you accept that sometimes you're a jerk too?Originally posted by Jan Ardena
You should take a leaf out of their book.
IMO, there's no significant difference. Maybe you can explain the difference from your perspective.Originally posted by Jan Ardena
Firstly, I do not presume God exists, I believe God exists.
Hehe, you'd like to think so I'm sure, but why? I vehemently challenge your utter BS. There's proper motivation. Lashing out like that... how.. un-christian. Tisk tisk. LOL.Originally posted by Jan Ardena
With regard to ignorance, you are one of the most ignorant people on this board.
Jan jan jan. Baseless claims sweetie! Come on! Try harder! Please for chrissake, make sense! If you want people to think I'm not a man of reason, DEMONSTRATE IT, don't just claim it.Originally posted by Jan Ardena
It is quite amazing, your level of ignorance, and then you claim to be a man of reason.
About ten stories OVER YOUR HEAD.Originally posted by Jan Ardena
Where is your reasoning?
You give no basis for your accusation. Just a little taste of evidence to the contrary in my post to Canute: "When theist assumes "god exists" or "this is evidence of god", she/he has an associated opportunity cost. If god exists then god doesn't not exist. If I know god is purple, god is not any other color. I mean that by making the assumption that god has the properties that a theist claims that they do, the preclude other theories from plausibility. IMO, as a reasonable person I think that unnacceptable. Hence agnosticism regarding epistemology."Originally posted by Jan Ardena
Instead of trying to put people down, why don’t you explain or give reason for your opinions. as to why you think they are wrong in their belief?
You said I'm just putting your down without giving a reason for it. I put you down because YOU ARE A FRAUD as I have just shown. I give reasons where your comments warrent them. Assenine assertions from you like the one I just trashed are the reason I resort to merely applying the appropriately earned title of "idiot". If the shoe fits, you'd be too stupid to wear it eh? No?
Hehe, cheap shot I know but I thought it was kind of funny variating on the addage and all. Jan, I would respect you if you would bother to actually think sometime but you repeatedly fail to bother so to keep myself entertained while I correct you I act like a jerk to you. I thought chicks dug that kind of thing? LOL. Nevermind.
Sure Jan. Maybe you can explain how my paraphrase of this: "i have not claimed to "understand" "Him", but through observing myself, people, nature, i have developed some understanding." (which you said) is innaccurate?Originally posted by Jan Ardena
This is what I mean about being brainwashed, that is not what I said, nor is it what I meant.
This coming from YOU? I'm think of a pot. No it's a kettle. Something about it being black? LOL. That's rich Jan.Originally posted by Jan Ardena
Please try as hard as you can Wes, to actually listen to what people say, without any preconceived ideas.
Man you're getting your condescension all over me! Ick!Originally posted by Jan Ardena
You may just surprise yourself and learn something one day.
You wonder why I insult you? Hehe.. there's a sign!Originally posted by Jan Ardena
Otherwise, your claim of being a man of reason, will remain as a dry joke.
Jan, you're like Sadaam babe. You've long since lost the argument but yet keep claiming victory from your exile. Hehe.. you go girl!Originally posted by Jan Ardena
Yeah?
You don't come of as cool Jan. You come off like just as big of a jerk as I do but all convoluted.Originally posted by Jan Ardena
Cool.
If you really give a shit Jan, in order to understand where I'm coming from you have to understand that I don't take this seriously. IRL, relationships are more important that arguments. I'm a gregarious guy. I LOVE to make people laugh. I have a LOT of love in my life and consider myself incredibly fortunate to have a wonderfull family and wonderful people in my life. For me, sciforums is a place to explore ideas. The way I conduct myself with you here is only somewhat representative of how I would interact with you IRL. IMO, vehement argumentation is the name of the game here. If you're not willing to be vehement about your argument, then you really aren't invested in it.
As far as I can tell, you're only vehement about not being proven wrong. IMO, that makes you very very shallow. Maybe I'm wrong. Could you admit the same?