911 Investigation

[The Devil Inside]

1. i do not believe the government's story about 911.
2. firemen do not use elevators in fires. thats why they are required (in america at least) to be in top physical condition.
3. stop seeing conspiracy everywhere. there is a mix of truth. not everything the world tries to feed you is poison.

 

[leopold]

don't know ifeven I would have the direspect to contact this person, who apparentlty has such bad health from exposure to the effects of 9/11 he had to retire--and ask him if he's lieing. Jeeeeezuz! oh btw. IF you were a fireman and had te chance to use an elevator rather than climb 24 flights of stairs, in heavy fireman's gear, in an emergency of such magnitude. what would YOU do??
jest curious......

duendy in the documentary that i mentioned it stated the elevators were not usable
it also stated that the doors to the elevators were blown off by the exploding jet fuel pouring down the elevators shafts

so let me ask YOU if you would step into an elevator under those conditions

 

[duendy]

1. i do not believe the government's story about 911.

me)))))well you got THAT one right.

2. firemen do not use elevators in fires. thats why they are required (in america at least) to be in top physical condition.

me))))))So, in other words you are calling this fireman's testimony a lie? explain...?

3. stop seeing conspiracy everywhere. there is a mix of truth. not everything the world tries to feed you is poison.

have you notjust said, you don't believe the government's story about 911? isn't that a conspiracy?

and i simply shared a fireman's testimony with you. which YOU make OUT to be some form of conspiracy. of who? the NYCfirebrigade. Him and 2 others. what?
shit you'll are mixed up. really...hah!

 

[duendy]

duendy in the documentary that i mentioned it stated the elevators were not usable

me)))WHAT documentary? why you holdin back ifnormation like some anal retanetaive person? i GIVE. i give links, and sometimes quote from source, etc etc. Ie, i mke EFFORT for this extremely serious inquiry. SO...?

it also stated that the doors to the elevators were blown off by the exploding jet fuel pouring down the elevators shafts

me))))what did. who did. where's the source for this docu? i a not saying they dont mean it in teir view. but you just spoutin off dont mean much do it?

so let me ask YOU if you would step into an elevator under those conditions

i dont know WHAt i woul do! i am not a seasoned NYC fireman faced with one of THE biggest catastrophes of his life!!

 

[leopold]

i mentioned the documentary duendy
it's called 911 inside the wtc

 

[duendy]

i mentioned the documentary duendy
it's called 911 inside the wtc

like gettin blood out of a stone wid u aintit...?
I dont remember you mentioning it....?
and can you not--lift an ARM to maybe give a link....?
AVE MARIAAAAAAAA!
you're calling that fireman a liar aren't ya?!

 

[leopold]

let's recap shall we?
okay duendy you claim that 2 different devices brought down wtc1 and 2
thermite to explain the molten metal and another type to explain the explosions
next you have firemen using the elevators

i have watched the movie 911 inside the wtc
in this film duendy the firemen DID NOT use the elevators

so who should we believe?
you who believes that numerology played a role or the documentary that i seen?

i mentioned it in this quote

 

[leopold]

you're calling that fireman a liar aren't ya?!

no i am not calling that fireman a liar, the documentary is.

 

[duendy]

no i am not calling that fireman a liar, the documentary is.

usually--whan we quote a title we do so in commas thus ("""") .....? so can yous do thatplease and provide link and contact? thankyou
As of now, i VERY much respect ALL the firemen who wee faced with that horror an aftermath of 9/11, and will not stand to have one publically called a liar. so i want to know who is calling him so, and TRY get to te bottom of this.
Did tat docu. actually mention his name?

 

[shaman_]

usually--whan we quote a title we do so in commas thus ("""") .....?

..Duendy giving instructions on how to quote. hehe

so can yous do thatplease and provide link and contact? thankyou
As of now, i VERY much respect ALL the firemen who wee faced with that horror an aftermath of 9/11, and will not stand to have one publically called a liar. so i want to know who is calling him so, and TRY get to te bottom of this.
Did tat docu. actually mention his name?

Lou's testimony was that he heard explosions that sounded like bombs. A 767 jet with thousands of gallons of fuel just crashed into a skyscraper and destroyed many floors. There just may be some explosions involved.

 

[duendy]

..Duendy giving instructions on how to quote. hehe

Lou's testimony was that he heard explosions that sounded like bombs. A 767 jet with thousands of gallons of fuel just crashed into a skyscraper and destroyed many floors. There just may be some explosions involved.

smart arse, wht fire YOO ever put out?? cept on yer digital games machine thingy...!
please try and bringsensible contributions to this thread laddio

 

[leopold]

usually--whan we quote a title we do so in commas thus ("""") .....? so can yous do thatplease and provide link and contact? thankyou
As of now, i VERY much respect ALL the firemen who wee faced with that horror an aftermath of 9/11, and will not stand to have one publically called a liar. so i want to know who is calling him so, and TRY get to te bottom of this.
Did tat docu. actually mention his name?

okay duendy the name of the documentary is "911 inside the wtc"
it was filmed by 2 french brothers
i'm not sure what website i got it from but i downloaded the entire movie and burned it to cd

no, the movie, to my knowledge, did not mention "your" fireman by name

 

[duendy]

OK, now it is more clear. yes, i vaguely recall seeing it myself quite some time back.
Thing is. what MOTIVE would this fireman have FOR lying about using an elevator...?

 

[leopold]

Thing is. what MOTIVE would this fireman have FOR lying about using an elevator...?

there are 3 reasons i can think of, there may be others
1. disinformation
2. he's a pathological liar
3. he's seeking attention

 

[shaman_]

smart arse, wht fire YOO ever put out?? cept on yer digital games machine thingy...!
please try and bringsensible contributions to this thread laddio

What part of my post was not sensible? Oh you are making the usual excuses because you don't like the things I say.

Actually I have done a basic firefighting course duendy, have you? This is not relevant but then again many of your posts aren't.

Do you see my point regarding the explosions? In a situation like this, explosions doesn't necessarily = bombs.

 

[duendy]

do you see my point? Confucious he say: hear explosion? may be a BOMB.

look. look. as i've said. errrm how can i put it. some pople have an artistic flair. some people can really recognize faces good. others can remember the most trivial knowledge. others have certain capacities for whatever reason. what i get from the group here who question this and come wit constant denials. no matte what is revealed. i am understanding tis flava as BLINKERED thinking. you dont seem to be able to keep remembering different clues, and be flexible.......etc...??

 

[duendy]

there are 3 reasons i can think of, there may be others
1. disinformation

me)))why would this fireman want to disinform? Due to the toxic 9/11 dust he had to retire.

2. he's a pathological liar

me)))now ya desperate aren't you..?

3. he's seeking attention

me))))anythin to be famous hey. questioning the government?

sur you weren't part of the 911 Commission fiasco?!

 

[shaman_]

do you see my point? Confucious he say: hear explosion? may be a BOMB.

From where he was the explosion certainly may have sounded like a bomb. That doesn't mean that it was.

look. look. as i've said. errrm how can i put it. some pople have an artistic flair. some people can really recognize faces good. others can remember the most trivial knowledge. others have certain capacities for whatever reason. what i get from the group here who question this and come wit constant denials. no matte what is revealed. i am understanding tis flava as BLINKERED thinking. you dont seem to be able to keep remembering different clues, and be flexible.......etc...??

You are not critical enough with your evidence. You have quantity but not quality. The people reading this thread are educated enough to know that there is nothing magical about adding dates and flight numbers up to make 11. The thermite theory failed. This evidence has been forgotten because it does not stand up to scrutiny.

 

[duendy]

From where he was the explosion certainly may have sounded like a bomb. That doesn't mean that it was.

me)))))))ohhhh sigh sigh siiiiiigh. it dontmean it WASN@t neither. in fact it more POINTS to a bomb than not...? also if ya read what he said. he suggested it LOOKED like a bomb's effects too.
ie., 'so far from plane impact'

You are not critical enough with your evidence.

me)))yes i am. it is YOU who are too dull to beable to understand from it !

You have quantity but not quality.

me)))i have BOTH. You have NEITHER

The people reading this thread are educated enough to know that there is nothing magical about adding dates and flight numbers up to make 11.

me)))First. how teheck do you KNOW what those reading this tread really think? all of a sudde your a mindreader....too? and it is completely obvious you are in total denial about thi, or you wouldn't exose you own lack of unerstanding to tese proceedings. and also important. you seem to place great emphass on 'education'--showing again your unacknowledged naiveity. forthis so-called education you brag about is EXACTLY a dumbing DOWN. Not REAl education. what we are doing--well what i amencouraging in this thread is real education. real exploration and investigation....i fear tough you wont understand this neither. just come back with inanity.
ps......it is not ONLY ABOUT the number '11' alto tat number is most undoubtedly undergirding the whole of the 9/11 horror. there are other 'power numbers' and symbolic meanings etc

The thermite theory failed. This evidence has been forgotten because it does not stand up to scrutiny.

Oh you donthalf pre-sume dont you?? no itis NOT forgotten. by your limited approach maybe, but not mine nor othe SERIOUS questioners. not ones like you who retreat thru denial and want 'safe' closure...!

 

[leopold]

Oh you donthalf pre-sume dont you?? no itis NOT forgotten. by your limited approach maybe, but not mine nor othe SERIOUS questioners. not ones like you who retreat thru denial and want 'safe' closure...!

the only thing you seem to be serious about duendy is that bombs were planted in wtc1 and 2

you offered a website that had a fireman taking an elevator to the 24th floor.

i gave you a documentary that said the elevators were nonfunctional

and nobody has answered one of my original questions.

are you still convinced that explosives brought down wtc1 and 2?
or are you going to accept that a fireman will use an elevator in a burning building?