I never said that no one ever entered the building.
Oh? Are you sure?
Ganymede said:
Based on those interviews,
it's safe to say that they never entered WTC7 and carried out any firefighting operations as the NIST & FEMA reports have stated. They only mentioned that they attempted to fight the fires when they were outside of the structure, but they said it was futile because the hoses had no pressure.
So once again, there was no firefighters to pull.
http://www.sciforums.com/showpost.php?p=1978690&postcount=55
Goooootchaaaa.
Heh.
According to the FEMA report the NYFD attempted to fight the fire at 11:30am, once they realized the waterline was severed they evacuated the building, because the sprinkler systems were malfunctioning as well.
What what? But you said that they never entered the building. Now you say they did.
So like I said, there was no firefighters to pull. Pull it, means it, (singular) the building.
So they went into the building - which you say above - but then you say there 'was' no firefighters to pull. So they evaporated? Were there firefighters to be pulled out or not? Make up your mind. You seem to have no idea what happened there, except that Bush crashed planes into everything.
BTW: "pull it" also can mean "the attempt to save the building".
Did you even read that report? Obviously not, you're just re-posting the same quotes kenny did. I don't know who he was searching for if the building was completely evacuated one hour after the first plane hit. Your PDF isn't consistent with the facts.
Frankly,
you aren't consistent with the facts. First you deny any firefighters were in the building (uhhh...coz they got all the people out!), then you admit (finally) that there
were firefighters in the building, and then you deny it again! Which is it? You flip back and forth to suit your faith in bullshit.
It was a controlled demolition.
Which has also been proven false. Wait, I have a link:
www.fema.gov/pdf/library/fema403_ch5.pdf
Seriously, this should tell you all you need to know.
You official story supporters said that Silverstein used the term "pull it" to evacuate WTC 7 beacuse they knew it was going to collapse. Then you started to pontificated that no demolition company has ever heard of the term "pull it".
I did? :shrug: Is that an issue?
Once both assertions were proven to be false, you switched to argument to they were outside
Nnnnooo, actually I didn't. And were they not outside the building
also? Do you understand what you're arguing here?
and the entire building was evacuated before 10:00am that morning. So the facts clearly demonstrate that no firefighting was taking place, it was an uncontrolled fire, so there was no firefighters to "pull it" when Silverstein made that comment.
You're partially right - it was an uncontrolled fire. But your timeline has some errors.
After the North Tower collapsed, some firefighters entered 7 World Trade Center to search the building. They attempted to extinguish small pockets of fire, but low water pressure hindered their efforts.[29] A massive fire burned into the afternoon on the 11th and 12th floors of 7 World Trade Center, the flames visible on the east side of the building.[30][31] During the afternoon, fire was also seen on floors 6–10, 13–14, 19–22, and 29–30.[3] In particular, the fires on floors 7 through 9 and 11 through 13 continued to burn out of control during the afternoon.[32] At approximately 2:00 p.m., firefighters noticed a bulge in the southwest corner of 7 World Trade Center between the 10th and 13th floors, a sign that the building was unstable and might collapse.[33] During the afternoon, firefighters also heard creaking sounds coming from the building.[34] Around 3:30 pm FDNY Chief Daniel Nigro decided to halt rescue operations, surface removal, and searches along the surface of the debris near 7 World Trade Center and evacuate the area due to concerns for the safety of personnel.[35][33] At 5:20 p.m. EDT on September 11, 2001, 7 World Trade Center collapsed. There were no casualties associated with the collapse.
So in fact, firefighters were still in the building a little under two hours before it collapsed. They didn't even pull out 5 hours before. You see why the Troofer movement is based on conjecture?
Yes, this took place 6 hours before it collapsed.
Apparently not.
No I don't follow you, the Firefighters said themselves they were frantically searching the rubble for their 200+ fallen comrades.
I know you don't follow me; that's why I'm posting. Your statement is hearsay and supposition. It is not reflected anywhere in the statement of the firefighter I cited. You need to reread the source, and the material Kenny posted.
http://graphics8.nytimes.com/packages/pdf/nyregion/20050812_WTC_GRAPHIC/9110150.PDF
I'm just getting started. I'm not saying everything in the FEMA report is right or wrong, however, I do believe they're conclusions are wrong based on the facts in the report.
Except where you falsely interpret them to support your pre-conclusion. And it's "their".
So, your argument having been completely exposed and me mopping the floor with you, are you done? Every time you change your speculation, you end up looking worse and worse. My advice? Give up while you're only this far behind. You're free to
believe what you like, of course: but claiming reasonable support or logic is something else entirely.