So, according to the "scholars" it's ok to have sex with 9 year olds, as long as you have a dream where god says it's ok.
Sweet dreams.
Yeah yeah the 9 year old think again.
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So, according to the "scholars" it's ok to have sex with 9 year olds, as long as you have a dream where god says it's ok.
Sweet dreams.
According to their book he "consummated" their relationship after the marriage in a back room and then sat and played with her toys with her. Now granted this is umpteenth hand, but I doubt they had sex or she wouldn't have been in a playful mood. Also hurting his daughter in his house wouldn't have a been terrible wise manner to cement the relationship with dad. Given arab body taboos they probably symbolicly uncovered and then laid down and that was proably it.
From the records she seems to have been his favorite and seems to have honestly returned his affection and genuinely morned his death so whatever they did it seems to have worked out ok.
Murderous warlord theocrat, yes. Pedo, probably not.
9 years old, based on the relationship in question.
That is what the quotes I've seen certainly state.
If they were legally married, which they were and certainly a couple could be even in the US with court approval, then I would say its none of my business.
At 12 they wouldn't need court approval in many states. Colorado for example. (Massacusets at 13).
Not exactly. Many civs distinguish between being able to sire young and get married and being a full adult - aka reaching your majority. We have several stages in the US- age of consent to marry (as young as 12), age of consent for extramarital sex (usually 16 ish), age to join the military (16, which contravens international law by the by), age to enter contracts and vote (usually 18 - the age of majority), age to consume alcohol (21 most places).
DiamondHearts
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Puberty. This is also the law according to the Torah and Bible.
http://www.answering-christianity.com/aishahage.htm
All human beings are naturally pure. Married women are just as pure as unmarried women according to Islam. Impurity relates to either a man or a woman having relations outside of marriage.
The majority view of the age is 12, which is when she reached puberty. Many Muslims even believe it is 14, 16, 18 or even 19, there are major differences of opinion. The most important aspect are the consensus of the woman in question and her parents in determining marriage.
Well it's a good thing we've evolved past getting our mores from the ignorant bastards who wrote books of mythology like the koran, torah, and bible.
And you're an anthropologist and a historian? Whats your view on Socrates banging little boys in brothels?
DiamondHearts
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Relations between man and woman before age of consent are still quite prevalent in the West, only it is no longer dictated by marriage. The rise of teenage pregnancies, STDs, perversion, etc are all the results of this trend toward total anarchy. The divorce rate is more than 60% in the US alone, in other Western nations its even higher. Most children in the West grow up now with only a single biological parent. Children are growing up as social misfits and sociopaths, suicidal and violent tendencies are more prevalent in children who do not have the benefit of being raised by their biological parents. Not to mention the rise of infidelity of parents has disastrous effects on a child's psyche and self-esteem.
You truly have evolved, congratulations.
These relations are considered immoral in the west. Not, apparently, in the backward religious cults of the Bronze and Iron Ages. Congratulations on refusing progress.
DiamondHearts
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Since when has immorality stopped the 'liberated' Western mind from engaging in these acts. There is no morality without religion. Most people in the West are Christian in name only. Relations before marriage is so common in the West that marriage between virgins rarely ever takes place, whereas most Muslim cultures require virginity as a prerequisite to marriage. Social norms are disintegrating in the West completely, and many Western people acting on their desires and impulses, are committing heinous acts against nature. Parents copulating with their children, brother-in-laws having affairs with their brother's wives, just watch Oprah, Judge Judy, to see exactly how far the US is falling.
See? Here is a muslim explaining why muslims suck and not getting it at all.
So Socrates is considered a pedophile in the west? And I thought the Greeks were considered the forerunners of rational thinking in the west.
Enmos
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Does one exclude the other ?
Enmos
Valued Senior Member
:thumbsup:
DiamondHearts
Registered Senior Member
Forgive us if our social norms are of a higher level than yours. Chastity, modesty, and honor have indeed indeed foreign words for many people in the West. More than 60% of Western populations are ill-begotten, many of them don't even know both their biological parents. You call this evolution, I call it social anarchy and social decay.
The first step is to recognize that your society has a problem. That problem is ruining the lives of your children. The main purpose of marriage is for raising and cultivating the next generation, even from an Atheist view. Why are rationalists and scientists cultivating a contradictory and illogical society?
The Muslims have the rare privilege of tracing their ancestry for hundreds of generations, and of being descendants of honorable and stable families. Forgive us if our lives do not revolve around trapping and using, then throwing away, as many loose women as we can get our hands on. The preposterous notion that this classifies as advancement and culture is mind boggling to a truly rational mind.
Just in case you missed it the first time, why they suck straight from the source.
K
kinova
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If a whole society thinks this is normal then it makes all of them pedophile. So by being part of a pedophile society and marrying her makes Mohammed a pedophile too. He should have seen it through(prophet?) and set an example by not marrying her.
