Why wouldn't Jesus be an asshole??
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Voodoo Child
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The difference though, is that Stalin was a sociopathic, blood thirsty, power hungry nutjob who slaughtered to keep his grip on the USSR. The difference is that atheism has not, as yet, convinced otherwise good people to commit attrocites eg. burning people, driving infidels out of the holyland. Atheism has no influence on a person's morality because it is merely a single value toward something that other's believe in.
That is why there are no atheist charities(excepting things like atheistcharity.org). It is not a uniting banner or a set of common values or views: it is a sufficiently small value that it has no influence. It would be like all the subjectivists or determinists running off and forming a charity. Instead atheists bugger off to their nearest charity in a disparate and unorganised fashion. Because they aren't altruistic as a group doesn't mean they aren't altruistic.
Everybody is 'obsessed with themselves' to some degree. It's part of the human condition, part of being self-aware. No one has a lock on it, either theist or athiest. To the degree that they obsess on themselves, they exclude consideration for others. When I'm thinking about me, I'm not thinking about you.
Xev - if you claim to know a persons underlying motivations, you are claiming to know something at the heart of a person that cannot be determined but only guessed at. So if you could point out different motivations in one sentence, and then claim in the next sentence not to know or care, and then in the third sentance accuse me of attacking you, then I'm afraid I'm just going to have to hold onto my credit card and bank account numbers until we can come to a better understanding.
So, even though Stalin was head of an avowed athiestic state, current day athiests don't want to be associated with his actions? Fine. Then why do all us current day Christians have to take the heat for all the sociopathic, blood thirsty, power hungry nutjobs who used the Nazarene as cover for their antics? Maybe we can start over again. Hi, my name is Turduckin. What's yours?
PS: Xev - I was only counting 'non-comabatants' killed in prisons or death camps. Otherwise, your right.
Turduckin:
I claim to know possible motivations. Perhaps I should have used smaller words.
Avowed athiestic? Totalitarianism is merely another form of religion. They simply did not believe in your God.
How do you know the inner hearts of all those dead Crusaders?
Of course I am. That's because I try to look at things reasonably before throwing blanket insults around and use reason and arguments to persuade, rather than fling insults for no reason.
Now, flinging insults when well deserved....
I claim to know possible motivations. Perhaps I should have used smaller words.
Avowed athiestic? Totalitarianism is merely another form of religion. They simply did not believe in your God.
How do you know the inner hearts of all those dead Crusaders?
Of course I am. That's because I try to look at things reasonably before throwing blanket insults around and use reason and arguments to persuade, rather than fling insults for no reason.
Now, flinging insults when well deserved....