Why support it if you cannot stomach it?
- Thread starter S.A.M.
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I generally don't watch documentaries about slaugtherhouses, but those juicy burgers, them I eat!!!
So your thread is (as usual) fucking damn...
I would go to slaughter houses to get meat. :shrug:
The US Army demands you support death sentences, and demands you must believe it.
Anyone who may be an enemy combatant, or a potential one, is subject to a US military death sentence, carried out immediately and with extreme prejudice.
At least, that's the rule of thumb, if you're a devotee of US military doctrine and have faith in its obvious supremacy, to those inferior to the cause.
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Simon Anders
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Merely the subjunctive?
I think she's saying that she doesn't eat meat.
And also doesn't realize that buying from a slaughterhouse means buying half a cow. Which is pretty big.
Pandaemoni
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Silly argument. I haven't read the whole thread, so others have probably pointed this out, but there are many things that are understood to be perfectly acceptable but that the average person find difficult to watch: surgery, autopsies, slaughtering animals, lawful executions, circumcisions.
The test of morality is not visual.
So if someone can't watch the amputation of a gangrene leg, then they shouldn't support medically necessary amputations? WTF? :bugeye:
I support indoor toilets, but I don't enjoy going down to the sewage treatment plant to breath in the lovely odor.
I like to eat sausage, but I've been told no one who likes to eat it should ever see it being made.
Something that is unpleasant, or even shocking, may still be necesary. And just as we don't post graphic images of sex acts on this site; we shouldn't post images of decapitated babies.
As opposed to?
It tends to devolve on the weekend.
Where? Not in the abattoir in Mumbai, you can actually request they set aside a brain or a liver or some hooves.
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Yes it is. I'm partial to tripe and brain and hooves myself. I won't turn down a liver or kidney either.
They are pretty hard to get fresh in the US.
There are a lot of things I fully support and do myself whenever appropriate, such as wiping my ass, of which I do not want to see photographs.
Shoving such pictures into my face is an offense, and the shover is in the wrong. I am not denying the reality of anything I support, and unless the shover has evidence that I am, presuming to educate by such assault is arrogant.
That said, denial based on squeamishness is not a moral virtue to be protected from all assault. If someone is denying the existence or reality of, say, the killing of civilians in Iraq by US weaponry and tactics, a graphic photo or two might be in order.
It doesn't make much of an argument, though. It's anecdote. Argument by anecdote is only good for countering a general denial.
And as a general observation, argument by photograph misleads more often than not. The photo is of an extreme case, or faked, or out of significant context, or somehow irrelevant, quite a bit more often than it is properly illustrative. IMHO. Likewise videos.
Shoving such pictures into my face is an offense, and the shover is in the wrong. I am not denying the reality of anything I support, and unless the shover has evidence that I am, presuming to educate by such assault is arrogant.
That said, denial based on squeamishness is not a moral virtue to be protected from all assault. If someone is denying the existence or reality of, say, the killing of civilians in Iraq by US weaponry and tactics, a graphic photo or two might be in order.
It doesn't make much of an argument, though. It's anecdote. Argument by anecdote is only good for countering a general denial.
And as a general observation, argument by photograph misleads more often than not. The photo is of an extreme case, or faked, or out of significant context, or somehow irrelevant, quite a bit more often than it is properly illustrative. IMHO. Likewise videos.
Enmos
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Is doing nothing to counter it the same as actively enabling it ?
If you saw a woman being raped, and walked by, are you enabling it?
Enmos
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Not actively.. :shrug:
You implied it's strange to support something but not be able to look at it.
Most people probably don't want to look at 99% of the things they do. Your body is pretty nasty to look at on a closer level.
Most people don't really want to look at photos or rotting corpses covered in mice and feces water. Yet I'm sure those people retroactively support the Allied effort in WWII.
I don't personally have a problem looking at any photos, but some people just have a low threshold for off-putting stuff. Is this really so difficult for you to understand?
What have you done to end the Sudanese conflict, Sam?
Most people probably don't want to look at 99% of the things they do. Your body is pretty nasty to look at on a closer level.
Most people don't really want to look at photos or rotting corpses covered in mice and feces water. Yet I'm sure those people retroactively support the Allied effort in WWII.
I don't personally have a problem looking at any photos, but some people just have a low threshold for off-putting stuff. Is this really so difficult for you to understand?
What have you done to end the Sudanese conflict, Sam?
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