1) Composites can’t be first and fundamental, such as proposing that atoms, molecules, or beings (such as us) are, nor Beings (such as Gods), all the more, to umpteen degrees even, because their parts must come before, and the parts of the parts, they getting ever closer to the simpler and the simplest that is first and fundamental. So, the direction being looked at for the Creator Being God notion is completely opposite, which couldn’t be more wrong, rendering the God notion totally beyond repair.
Plus, a believer cannot demand that life has to come from Life and then throw the template of the demand right out the window to then all of the sudden say that Life wouldn’t then require LIFE behind it, and so forth.
The God notion was but a simpleton idea that just went one level up and then inexplicably halted, “case closed”, ending all thinking, but that’s what dogma is. Our karma has run over the dogma.
Foe those who still doubt, we will identify that humans still use probability, to decide, as they must, in practice, for one cannot really be on and off the fence at the same time, plus sitting on a fence can be uncomfortable. They begin to see that the possibilities of ‘God’ vs ‘no God’ are not equi-probable, as perhaps they mistakenly thought in the first place.
The tricky theist may say that ‘God’ is an unprecedented happening, God just happening to be sitting around eternally as the First, with all His power, having done nothing to earn it (we would add), but at least the tricky theist had to claim more attributes of extensions, but has nothing to show, while we do have something to show, and even more.
2) Basic ‘somethings’, or just ‘something’ are either as Something Forever or From Nothing. ‘Nothing; is not ‘God’, but its opposite, and if as Something Forever then they were never made, and so they had no creation, and thus no Creator.
The two and only two possible options above even conjoin, in that each indicates the other, for Something Forever did not come from anything, and so the notion is incomplete, and we can only complete it by going on to note that when something doesn’t come from anything that this is akin to saying that it comes from nothing.
And for the option of From Nothing there had to be some default (a forced ‘capability’) to make it turn into something, or as ‘sum-things’, positives and negatives, that still sum to zero overall (and we do see this balance of opposites in nature). Yet, the forced defaults’ ‘capability’ was potentially eternal, as unexercised, but not actually eternal, for it changed into a universe, plus we already know that what is said to be ‘forever’ is as from nothing.
‘God’ is now gone twice over. Intermediate managers have been laid off, they adding nothing, and not First.
And still the basis of all has to be simple, for it is not the basis if it is complex or composite, with parts. The Creator Being would not be simple, for it would have to have a system of mind that thinks, plans, designs, and creates.
My thread ‘A Complete Solution to all there is’ shows how the forced default conditions came together as the universe. ‘God’ was not required.
All that’s left to be as ‘God’, but not a ‘God’, is but a highly evolved alien life form making us or putting a microbe here that evolved into us (and evolution has triple confirmation).
So, a 2-0 shutout, although 1-0 would have been enough. It was also a perfect game, since the theist had no hits. Balks were many, though.
3) The Final Solution
There is literally nothing to make anything (actuality) of and so that must be what it comes from, in an expression of it, as a distribution, for no other source is possible. ‘From nothing’ is not from ‘God’; it is from nothing—from nonexistence. It is everything that existence is not.
That’s it. Done. And it cannot be undone. No actuality can be the first source. All things must have beginnings, from nothing, and ‘things’ includes beings.
Confirmation isn’t even needed, but we have it in spades, as an overall zero-balance of ‘sum-things’ as somethings… which summation to zero is the basis for the conservation laws, now as well as before, for they are inherent in the perfect symmetry of nothing. The opposite polarity of charge, matter vs anti-matter, and the negative potential energy of gravity balancing the positive kinetic energy of stuff all together constitute the nullification of existence in the overview, although one of them would be primary, but all are intertwined, such as gravity/mass/matter/energy operating from one another.
And, finally, lo and behold, the universe does appear to have come from nowhere and nothing, for just before it was here it was not here.
Since the universe happened, change is inevitable.
Only the simplest possible actuality could be first, as a thing, but not First, since nothing must be the source of it, and so nothing is ever the First. The simplest actuality produced from nothing would have to be a continuous function (no parts), such as a wave, and its counter-wave, for balance.
What about that the base actuality was around forever, its exact amount just happening to be such and such, no more, no less, already made in its certain form, but never made, that same exact stuff in its original amount still here and ever will be?
While this ‘forever’ result would also disprove ’God’, since the stuff was never created by anything, much less by a Being, it is an incomplete solution, and thus an invariably wrong solution, due to its incompleteness. Something being not from anything is akin to it being from nothing. Things cannot be causeless, leaving only nothing to be causeless, as the default, simplest state.
So, no thing be can first, not even an electron as an ‘elementary’ particle, not even the waves, fields, and oscillations that compose it, nor even a solitary wave and its opposite, which I propose as the first actual things, for there is nothing to make anything of and so that is what was truly First, and its zero-sum balance of opposites shows in nature.
So, now, atheists have something, which is better than just the theist’s feeling/sensation born of repeated exposure to the God idea, or of the nervous system, which felts states of beings are not the whole story, but only a second story, as they are ever of the non-apparent first story substrates of the levels of physical and neurological states beneath, on into the basement beneath those.
3-0 shutout.
Where are your proofs, Jan?
You don't have any.
