DaveC426913
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In this context, anything observed that's not made by humankind should be a sufficient defintion.How do you define " Natural world " ?
In this context, anything observed that's not made by humankind should be a sufficient defintion.How do you define " Natural world " ?
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How do you define " Natural world " ?
In this context, anything observed that's not made by humankind should be a sufficient defintion.
Don't be shy, c'mon! Tell us your definition of the natural world.It is not sufficient definition of the " Natural World " at all .
I mean, essentially, the world of stuff - animals, people, atoms, galaxies - that kind of thing. As opposed to the world of imagination, or the world of human-created things (like literature, art, architecture, music, politics). Essentially, science involves making observations of testable or repeatable phenomena. Scientists do experiments and make careful observations of stuff. Scientists are interested in what makes this natural world tick - what are its basic constituents? How do they come together to make an animal, a brain, a mountain? How do they interact with one another? What causes lead from one thing to another?How do you define " Natural world " ?
If it's a UFO video, we can be justifiably suspicious, certainly. There's such a long tradition of fakery there. And yes, we should be suspicious of some other videos too, especially certain "viral" ones, because - again - so many of those have notoriously turned out to be fakes.Right. Because we all know that just because something is on youtube, it can't be anything other than fake.
Some of them are inaccurate, certainly. There's not a very big industry of faking science documentaries, as far as I'm aware, but maybe you have some examples? You probably have extensive "favorites" lists of woo from the hours you spend avidly absorbing that crap. It could be that you've occasionally stumbled on something scientific during your surfing.I guess all those science experiments, news videos, lectures, historical footage, biographies, and documentaries are all just products of the big youtube conspiracy to deceive you.
You draw this conclusion because I'm aware that videos can be faked, do you?I'll bet you never leave your house, do you James?
Well you have lead me to believe such given you only offer slide shows.No movies of ufos? Who told you that?
Or did you just pull that out of your
I mean, essentially, the world of stuff - animals, people, atoms, galaxies - that kind of thing. As opposed to the world of imagination, or the world of human-created things (like literature, art, architecture, music, politics). Essentially, science involves making observations of testable or repeatable phenomena. Scientists do experiments and make careful observations of stuff. Scientists are interested in what makes this natural world tick - what are its basic constituents? How do they come together to make an animal, a brain, a mountain? How do they interact with one another? What causes lead from one thing to another?
How about you?
Natural does not merely mean living.The Natural World is all living . every atom , quantum particle , every sub-quantum particle , down to the higgs particle.
Yes. Science is a human enterprise that aims at giving us an informed perspective about the natural world.these experiments are Human created . Therefore Human perspective upon the Universe .
Yes. Science is a human enterprise that aims at giving us an informed perspective about the natural world.
Is that a problem for you?
He knows that. That's why this is just a game of moving the goalposts. Show me evidence. But that's a poorly made video. Show me evidence from this century. But that's too old. Show me evidence from the last 5 years. But it's not a movie. Show me a movie of a ufo from the past 5 years. But that movie is too poorly made. And so it endlessly goes ad nauseum.
I would have thought that sorting thru to find something would be a useful exercise.
Do you want me to be honest or just roll over.
Seriously if you think the material you have offered is the best you can do say so...
If you think a movie of everything but the purported subject matter, not even a photo of the subject matter is going to make me roll over I say you are not sincere.
I have been sincere in seeking the truth yet all you do is present as someone who is trying to convince the forum that UFO folk are really really stupid.
Is that your game.
If it is not put up or shut up.
Just one movie, just one, showing the UFO, given that even years ago cameras were capable of decent resolution make sure the quality is reasonable.
If you can't do that OK but say so.
But do not think a slide show is what I want to see.
And forget I said I want new..just something with the UFO not aovie with flashes of this and that but no UFO...
Simple can you deliver.
If so do so but please don't rant about what I have already told you and that is I am a sceptic.
Why the performance when I ask for more having told you that.
Alex
No..I'm not playing your game of moving the goalposts. Go play with someone else. I'm done taking you seriously.
By not reading fiction one does not have to look the characters in a book of fiction for wisdom...wait was Sherlock a real person.A thought from Sherlock Holmes