No, I enjoyed your posts. I was being short and to the point.
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spuriousmonkey said:No, I enjoyed your posts. I was being short and to the point.
spuriousmonkey said:It's nice to not see complete drivel once in a while, and moreover, actually something that is informative and accurate.
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swivel said:These questions about how seemingly impossible it would be for life to get kick-started frustrate me. There is absolutely no evidence that life has a hard time beginning. On the contrary, everywhere we look in the universe, we see potential places for life to brew. ...
Up late last night I see?Theoryofrelativity said:Maybe it's because we have we not witnessed a single example of it happenning supported by the fact we can't we reproduce the effect.
All things we can't do ourselves are to US impossible they are impossible to US until they become possible by US. Does not mean that it is impossible to ............whatever, just to us.
Theoryofrelativity said:Maybe it's because we have we not witnessed a single example of it happenning supported by the fact we can't we reproduce the effect.
All things we can't do ourselves are to US impossible they are impossible to US until they become possible by US. Does not mean that it is impossible to ............whatever, just to us.
I'm tellin' ya, ToR was up late last night, swillin' the juice.swivel said:I'm not following.
The building blocks of life are found floating around in space, and if you put them in a jar, and simulate lightening, you get some pretty complex polypeptides, and even some smaller amino acids and peptide chains.
And you are saying that since we can't create life in a test-tube that it is inconceivable how it could have happened on an early Earth without divine intervention?
Like I said, I'm not following.
swivel said:And you are saying that since we can't create life in a test-tube that it is inconceivable how it could have happened on an early Earth without divine intervention?
imaplanck. said:As we say over here 'Its all a loada bollocks aint it'
superluminal said:I'm tellin' ya, ToR was up late last night, swillin' the juice.
Uh, Ron. Old buddy. It's a bit of fun. ToR and the Planckster and I are friends. It's ok. Settle down.perplexity said:If you have nothing more intelligent than that to contribute, please shut up.
--- Ron.
i wouldn't go as far as divine but this is a damn good point.perplexity said:As I understand it the intention is rather to pose the question:
Unless you demonstrate the possibility, what is the difference between believing that something happened with no particular cause and believing that something divine was the cause, whatever you happen to want "divine" to mean?
They're both beliefs are they not?
--- Ron.
SOME life. As we indicated, we have only one example of a life-bearing planet. Our "gut" feeling is that life systems vastly different from ours are unlikely, that's all.Theoryofrelativity said:well from what you say, oxygen is toxic to biological life so yes we can have life systems vastly different to our own.
Yes, imagine. The question that no one can answer very well is "is that even possible?".Imagine if our world and biological organsims continued to evolve without the prescenece and interference of oxygen, we'd have completely a different life system.
Where'd that come from? Life not needing oxy is a far cry from putting it in space. There's evry reason to think that life (as we concieve of it - biological) could never exist in space. Space is generally a hell of high energy radiation - electromagnetic and particle.So life can exist in space without oxygen
By definition it did, right?Did the prescence of oxygen (water) have a terraforming effect on our planet?
The difference is that the possibility is demonstrated. It's not a fuzzy belief. There are solid biochemical reasons to think that abiogenesis occurrs. Research the evidence for yourself and see.perplexity said:As I understand it the intention is rather to pose the question:
Unless you demonstrate the possibility, what is the difference between believing that something happened with no particular cause and believing that something divine was the cause, whatever you happen to want "divine" to mean?
They're both beliefs are they not?
--- Ron.
Ha. So predictable. Thanks for making me smile.leopold99 said:i wouldn't go as far as divine but this is a damn good point.
does it make sense to you that things become alive? i'm being serious here.superluminal said:Ha. So predictable. Thanks for making me smile.