Theoryofrelativity said:
First life was a random thing, sprang from the soup, how did this requirement to replicate thus simultaneously arise as part of that random event?
No idea - a question of abiogenesis - not evolution.
ToR said:
How and why did the evolutionary process begin? I know how it works, I am not asking how I am asking why? Why did 'fit' organsims pass this knowledge to their progeny, oh I forget they just did. It is purely accidental that life is randomly designed to survive.
No - it is NOT purely accidental.
Evolution (biological) IS the process by which life survives or doesn't in the face of a changing environment.
There is no WHY to evolution other than: BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT IT IS.
Evolution is a process - and there is only the HOW.
Otherwise, please explain to me WHY the sun shines, or why the sky is blue.
And answer me those without merely telling me the HOW.
ToR said:
You can't answer a question about the origin of evolution with 'it is part of evolution'
Evolution kicks in whenever there is a change in environment and an ability of things to adapt.
Those that do are said to evolve - those that don't die out.
Things don't choose to evolve - they just either do or don't.
The origin of evolution is when you first have the pre-requisites for evolution in place. And even then you may only get a result that was "F - Failed to evolve".
ToR said:
Replication takes into consideration the need to adapt, thus evolution is at work when replication is at work.
No. Replication just replicates. There is no "need" to adapt.
When life replicates it can introduce minute changes.
Future survival might later (in a changing environment) depend upon certain changes from the original - and those that have those changes survive, those that don't die off.
quote=ToR]So again you cannot answer the question as to why do we need to replicate with 'that is the definition of life'[/quote]We do not NEED to replicate.
Life is DEFINED as being something that DOES.
ToR said:
Unless you are implying LIFE wants to LIVE? WHY does LIFE want to live?
Life doesn't WANT to live. It just does!
ToR said:
Why not live,die, live,die, live die.
That could have happened.
But one bit of life arose that DID replicate.
And this one continued to replicate as its environment didn't adversely change for a while.
And sometimes when it replicated, minute changes were introduced. Some of these changes resulted in that offspring dying.
Some durvived.
When the environment did change adversely, some of the changes from the original allowed the offspring to keep surviving, while others without these necessary changes died off.
ToR said:
The first life forms were not genetically connected unless the first life forms arose with the ability to replicate. IF the VERY first living this arose with the ability to replicate, HOW and WHY?
Maybe when we manage to create life from raw-matter we will be able to provide you with a satisfactory answer.
ToR said:
Meanwhile I am NOT saying they did appear without ability to replicate. I am just trying to get you to ask yourself WHY, bearing in mind it was a random event....rather complex set of inbuilt mechanisms for a random event?
Why random?
ToR said:
It is important you see beyond the limitations of answering a question with the following: etc
Then don't ask "why does life replicate?" because that is the wrong question - as life is defined as (among other things) replicating.
You should be asking HOW raw matter began self-replicating in complex structures - and that is a matter of abiogenesis - which is nothing to do with evolution.