No he is defining believing in a creator as theism.
perplexity said:So?
Creationism was the issue.
--- Ron.
imaplanck. said:No he is defining believing in a creator as theism.
Theoryofrelativity said:so you are defining observing life as 'religion' well I guess that makes you religious too then. Tell me something new.
Theoryofrelativity said:It is just that, an interefering force. I do not know anything more than I have observed. Anything else is speculation.
From memory theism from wikipedia suggests belief in deity.
(Q) said:Life has been observed by a great many people, who have yet to see the same 'forces' you purport to see. In fact, you claim to only believe in them; blind faith.
You're a theist, as I said you were a long time ago. You may choose not to accept it, but you'll always be viewed as a theist, by definition.
(Q) said:You OBSERVED those forces?!? What do they look like? There's a Nobel Prize waiting for you.
No, belief in supernatural forces that control human destinies, like your forces.
(Q) said:Ron, isn't it the effects of a persons actions that determine their destiny in their next incarnation considered "Karma" and not some external force?
(Q) said:you'll always be viewed as a theist, by definition.
Theoryofrelativity said:No blind faith required, I KNOW what has happened in my life and that of others, and there is no question that intereference takes place, you don't accept it, that is your problem not mine.
I have no need to prove to you how my life works, I am only grateful I have figured out how it works for me so I can use it to my best advantage. It is your loss that you miss the point of everything in your own life and only pay attention to that which has been indioctrinated into you by other humans.
Theoryofrelativity said:No blind faith required, I KNOW what has happened in my life ....
imaplanck. said:So outside of this board are which kind of people exactly? Maybe you will be called a theist by all atheists and scientifically minded alike.
Theoryofrelativity said:it's not a force Q, it's a set of circumstances that are being manipualted both to aid me and to teach me, another word for this type of manipulation of events could be 'magic ' . I believe in magic Q, woo woooooooooooooo
or you would probably call it 'coincidence' , VERY odd coincidences, I see attributing everything to 'coincidence' as blind faith Q and FEAR, fear that you are just a small fuck in a very big fuck filled pond.
perplexity said:Why?
Why should this be the business of anybody else at all?
--- Ron.
Theoryofrelativity said:Incorrect
I will only be viewed a theist on this board (which I have zero problem with)
But in the rest of my life, no one ever will call me theist as they never did before, why? Because NEVER is religion or belief in God/pink bunnies a topic of conversation in my real world outside of this board. Your obsession is not everyones.
spuriousmonkey said:Why do you post here.
perplexity said:It depends how you look at it.
There are monotheistic Buddhist who feel the need for a creator. Others insist that the Buddhist idea is not of "reincarnation", but rather of "re-birth". (don't ask!)
At any rate there is a sense of relationship akin to that with an omnipotent overlord; the Universe actively responds to us.
--- Ron.
Why?
Why should this be the business of anybody else at all?
Not since I was a teenage Boy Scout do I recall being obliged to fill in a form to declare a religious belief
--- Ron.