When The Earth Was In The First Heaven
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The earth is in a second heaven right now. God’s body is composed of a substance called spirit. The life God has within himself produces some kind of light that his body cannot contain. The light God’s life produces cannot be controlled, it just shines all the time.
Please show that
A) "god" exists.
B) "god" does actually visit the Earth.
And that a "relationship" exists.
Um, that's the Sun. You know, the big shiny thing in the sky during day time.
Really?
What's "common sense" about it? Where's the "reasoning"?
And no, "god" (and anything to do with that topic[1]) isn't science.
1 Other than investigations into WHY people believe, of course.
Who cares what a person believes. What a person believes gets in the way of science.
So drop God and heaven from your argument; they're just beliefs. What do you have left?
Yazata
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Does 'God' even exist?
If so, then is 'God' located in a limited region of space and time, such that 'he' can move around from place to place? (I don't think that most theists would agree to that.)
What do you mean when you say that God is "the light source of the earth"? I thought that was the Sun. Are you using the phrase "light source" in some different way to mean something else?
How many heavens do you believe in? Where did you hear about all these heavens? Why do you believe they exist?
Yazata
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I don't think so.
It reminds me of some kind of gnostic-style belief in where the universe emanates like light from a divine Source on high, and manifests in a series of progressively lower and less-divine heavenly realms, until we get to the world of matter, down here at the bottom.
That's not science, that's ancient mythology from late antiquity.
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Yazata
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So far, everything you've written seems to be based on nothing more than what you believe.
And since what you believe and imagine appears to be so distant and remote from what the rest of us think and believe, communicating with you is going to be very difficult.
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Science would use Paul's writings to prove religion is junk. Religion is in the way, because of all the afterlife stories religion daydreams about.
Science would say everything going on, is going on inside of a structure. There is a structure according to science 101.
That is religion, Paul runs all that religion out of science.
A) Yes B) Yes
Yes that relationship exist . He put his spirit into Yahshua. Beside God is the creation . Do you have any proof contrary ? So show it
Science would want us to start with Genesis 1:1, there is history about how this became without form and void.
God is the creation so were ever you look the hand of God is there.
This is an unsupported claim
Please show the "science" behind Paul's words.
All of these are just claims.
Please provide the evidence.
I don't need any.
Wrong on at least two counts:
1) Science doesn't consider Genesis.
2) Genesis has not been shown to be history.