What was the Sign of Jonah?

Conclusive confession

Why take Ben's post, Tony1? Is it easier than thinking?*

That's like asking why go around the cesspool.
Going thru the cesspool is just TOO much.
Thank you for admitting it, Tony1.

--Tiassa :cool:
 
Conclusive confession that tiassa's post was like a cesspool

*Originally posted by tiassa
Thank you for admitting it, Tony1.
*

Hey, no problem.
Any time you feel like having me admit that slogging thru your posts is like wading thru a cesspool, just ask.

I mean it seriously, tiassa, just ask.
That's if you want to hear it more often than I'm saying it, that is.
 
Re: Kneedeep in crap in your post, that's what's wrong

Originally posted by tony1
*Originally posted by tiassa
Why take Ben's post, Tony1? Is it easier than thinking?
*

That's like asking why go around the cesspool.
Going thru the cesspool is just TOO much.

*I'm not ready to make a definitive point on this one*

Debate is so, uh, not ready for definitive points, huh?

*since you consider your opinions so definitive, we'd appreciate your insight into these issues that even the Christian faithful can't come to terms on.*

Sure.
Day of preparation - one day
Day of preparation night - one night
Sabbath - two days
Sabbath night -two nights
Sunday, - three days

So far, 3 days and 2 nights are accounted for, as per ....

After two days will he revive us: in the third day he will raise us up, and we shall live in his sight.
(Hosea 6:2, KJV).

One more night...

The night is far spent, the day is at hand: let us therefore cast off the works of darkness, and let us put on the armour of light.
(Romans 13:12, KJV).

We are the Body of Christ.

Knowing that he which raised up the Lord Jesus shall raise up us also by Jesus, and shall present us with you.
(2 Corinthians 4:14, KJV).

Parts of the Body of Christ are still buried.

Sunday counts as a day since...

Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.
(John 20:17, KJV).

*What does a more literal-minded Christian think of the idea that the Bible doesn't say quite what it says?*

You'd have to read the whole thing, not just parts.

*What does it say of the dedicated Christians who translate the Bible so poorly as to leave such issues to question and debate?*

The issues are only open to debate for those who don't read the whole thing.

*What does it say of the propriety of faith to have such points of faith unresolved?*

What's unresolved?

*the faithful still can't come together on a most central point of faith.*

Even the faithful have to read the whole thing.

*Originally posted by Markx
It clearly said there will be no other sign but this one sign.
*

TO THIS WICKED AND ADULTEROUS GENERATION.

A wicked and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given unto it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas. And he left them, and departed.
(Matthew 16:4, KJV).

For us who are not wicked and adulterous, there are plenty of signs.
You wicked and adulterous guys are the ones who get the one sign to choke on.

*AN EVIL AND ADULTEROUS GENERATION SEEKETH AFTER A SIGN; AND THERE SHALL NO SIGN (no miracle) BE GIVEN TO IT, BUT THE SIGN (miracle) OF THE PROPHET JONAS*

There.
See? You quoted the same section yourself.
It's the wicked and adulterous who only get one sign.

So did you get it? :D and you think you are not adulterous and wicked? I think you leave that for God to decide. I mean one God not THREE Gods.

If you looked at the day and night view point you will never be able to prove it correct. We both know this.Jesus did not fullfill this prophecy and you admit it from your above post telling me that for you there are many signs but for any one else there is one?... You can come up with many things but again it is all matter of intepretation specialy when you believe in what others say not Jesus. You just enjoying twisting his words. Very typical. :rolleyes:
 
Re: Re: Kneedeep in crap in your post, that's what's wrong

*Originally posted by Markx
So did you get it? and you think you are not adulterous and wicked? I think you leave that for God to decide. I mean one God not THREE Gods.
*

Just out of curiosity, what is this one God's name?

*If you looked at the day and night view point you will never be able to prove it correct. We both know this.Jesus did not fullfill this prophecy and you admit it from your above post telling me that for you there are many signs but for any one else there is one?... You can come up with many things but again it is all matter of intepretation specialy when you believe in what others say not Jesus. You just enjoying twisting his words. Very typical.*

There is only one sign for the wicked, according to what Jesus said.
I'm sure that you aren't disputing that.

Therefore you take exception to the idea that I might have more than one sign?

How shall we escape, if we neglect so great salvation; which at the first began to be spoken by the Lord, and was confirmed unto us by them that heard him;
God also bearing them witness, both with signs and wonders, and with divers miracles, and gifts of the Holy Ghost, according to his own will?

(Hebrews 2:3,4, KJV).

Salvation, when preached, is confirmed by signs and wonders.
If you reject the preaching of salvation, then you won't see those signs, just twisting, or tricks, or whatever.
 
Re: Re: Re: Kneedeep in crap in your post, that's what's wrong

Originally posted by tony1
*Originally posted by Markx
So did you get it? and you think you are not adulterous and wicked? I think you leave that for God to decide. I mean one God not THREE Gods.
*

Just out of curiosity, what is this one God's name?





God's name huh??? I personaly don't think that ONE TRUE God has any name. It could be "GOD", "Khuda" "Allah" "Elha" " "AKU" " "Jehova". I be careless as long as there are no obsurd claims of God beeing white, black, green or yellow. Having sons or doughters. It is a real disgrace for existing GOD, For some he maynot exists but they still better then beleving in no God then a God with SON, and the GOD who showed Adam his Back not the front. God who walked in heaven with heavy sound of his foot step like a big foot or played hide and seek with Adam.God who reveal pornographics scripture, GOD who made mistakes in his own so called holy scripture. God with small "gs" etc etc. I know what exactly you were thinking when you asked me above question :)



Salvation, when preached, is confirmed by signs and wonders.
If you reject the preaching of salvation, then you won't see those signs, just twisting, or tricks, or whatever.
[/QUOTE]

There is no such thing. Made up by Humans for weak minded to believe or for easy way out. :eek:
 
Re: Re: Re: Re: Kneedeep in crap in your post, that's what's wrong

*Originally posted by Markx
God's name huh??? I personaly don't think that ONE TRUE God has any name. It could be "GOD", "Khuda" "Allah" "Elha" " "AKU" " "Jehova".
*

That's like saying your ONE TRUE NEIGHBOR'S name is "one true neighbor" or "the guy next door" or "that guy" or it doesn't matter.
It matters.
If you know him, you know his name.
If you don't know him, you don't know his name.

"Allah" for example, is not God's name, because it is merely the Arab translation for the word "God."
Other so-called "names" of God, are also translations of the word "God."

Moses also wanted to know God's name.

And Moses said unto God, Behold, when I come unto the children of Israel, and shall say unto them, The God of your fathers hath sent me unto you; and they shall say to me, What is his name? what shall I say unto them?
(Exodus 3:13, KJV).

He was told.

And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.
(Exodus 3:14, KJV).

*Having sons or doughters. It is a real disgrace for existing GOD, For some he maynot exists but they still better then beleving in no God then a God with SON, and the GOD who showed Adam his Back not the front. God who walked in heaven with heavy sound of his foot step like a big foot or played hide and seek with Adam.God who reveal pornographics scripture, GOD who made mistakes in his own so called holy scripture. God with small "gs" etc etc.*

Of course, for someone who believes in some stranger, that might be one way to think of God.
On the other hand, I know him as my father, so he is much more personal to me.

*I know what exactly you were thinking when you asked me above question*

If you did, then why didn't you tell me his name?
 
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Kneedeep in crap in your post, that's what's wrong

Originally posted by tony1
*Originally posted by Markx
God's name huh??? I personaly don't think that ONE TRUE God has any name. It could be "GOD", "Khuda" "Allah" "Elha" " "AKU" " "Jehova".
*

That's like saying your ONE TRUE NEIGHBOR'S name is "one true neighbor" or "the guy next door" or "that guy" or it doesn't matter.
It matters.
If you know him, you know his name.
If you don't know him, you don't know his name.

"Allah" for example, is not God's name, because it is merely the Arab translation for the word "God."
Other so-called "names" of God, are also translations of the word "God."

Moses also wanted to know God's name.

And Moses said unto God, Behold, when I come unto the children of Israel, and shall say unto them, The God of your fathers hath sent me unto you; and they shall say to me, What is his name? what shall I say unto them?
(Exodus 3:13, KJV).

He was told.

And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.
(Exodus 3:14, KJV).

*Having sons or doughters. It is a real disgrace for existing GOD, For some he maynot exists but they still better then beleving in no God then a God with SON, and the GOD who showed Adam his Back not the front. God who walked in heaven with heavy sound of his foot step like a big foot or played hide and seek with Adam.God who reveal pornographics scripture, GOD who made mistakes in his own so called holy scripture. God with small "gs" etc etc.*

Of course, for someone who believes in some stranger, that might be one way to think of God.
On the other hand, I know him as my father, so he is much more personal to me.

*I know what exactly you were thinking when you asked me above question*

If you did, then why didn't you tell me his name?


So all the name are translation of "God"??......lol funny. What comes first English or Hebrew? Arabic or English?. What did Jesus said God's name was? or is?


" Of course, for someone who believes in some stranger, that might be one way to think of God."

So who believes in stranger? You or me?. There is only one God no matter what you call him.

"On the other hand, I know him as my father, so he is much more personal to me."

Just like he was for Jesus. See how simple. Why don't you read in Bible what jesus was trying to tell people just like you.
All the messengers brought the message of one God. But people changed it. People like pual,john, matthew etc. And you took their word over Jesus's word. :(

That's like saying your ONE TRUE NEIGHBOR'S name is "one true neighbor" or "the guy next door" or "that guy" or it doesn't matter.


It doesn't work when you deal with God. Offcourse for you it might works since you believe in human as god so fits perfecto.
:bugeye:


If you did, then why didn't you tell me his name?

I did in above post. ;)
Later
 
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Kneedeep in crap in your post, that's what's wrong

*Originally posted by Markx
So all the name are translation of "God"??......lol funny. What comes first English or Hebrew? Arabic or English?
*

Who cares?
It's no different than you trying to convince me that your neighbor's name is "Man."

*What did Jesus said God's name was? or is?*

Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.
(John 8:58, KJV).

*So who believes in stranger? You or me?. There is only one God no matter what you call him.*

You believe in some stranger whose name you don't know.
Try calling your wife, if you have one, say, Jessica, if her name is Mary, just to test your theory of whether names matter.

*I did in above post. *

Sure, and your dog's name is Dog, and your cat's name is Cat, and you wife's name is Wife, and your car is a Car, and your computer is a Computer.
 
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Kneedeep in crap in your post, that's what's wrong

Originally posted by tony1
*Originally posted by Markx


Sure, and your dog's name is Dog, and your cat's name is Cat, and you wife's name is Wife, and your car is a Car, and your computer is a Computer.


Yes indeed. According to you Holy spirit, Jesus and father are all the same aren't they?. Same person doesn't matter what you call him, you call him God don't you?. It is the same thing isn't it?..:p
Now does it matter to me? No. Why don't you tell us what is God's name?:p :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
 
To know love is to know God. We are included in God's world by more than words. God called his people on their name, and we are His church by calling Him by the names He would have us call Him: Father of all and One true God: (I AM), confession and witnessing (Jesus said: HE IS...), and faith/action (The Spirit of WE ARE).

Don't forget, directly after saying to Moses "I AM sent you":
15 God also said to Moses, "Say to the Israelites, 'The LORD , the God of your fathers - the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac and the God of Jacob - has sent me to you.' This is my name forever, the name by which I am to be remembered from generation to generation.

Consider also the following verse:
Isaiah 6:8: Also I heard the voice of the Lord, saying, "Whom shall I send, and who will go for Us?"

Check out this website for some interesting analyses about the hypothesis of the trinity:
http://www.christian-thinktank.com/trin02.html
 
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