What does "Christ" mean?

Spectrum said:
Perhaps it is an abbreviation of Christopher.
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No, you've got the relationship backwards. Christos is simply a Greek word meaning "anointed," a literal translation of the Hebrew word mashiach. After Christianity gained momentum, Christos came to mean specifically Jesus, the anointed one. The Greek name Christopher was subsequently coined, meaning "Christ bearer."
 
jmpet said:
Anointing Oil ...
-Exodus 30
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Is that the same oil that burned in the temple for seven days when it should have lasted for only one?
Do you think if mixed with petroleum "peak oil" could come seven times later? :shrug:
 
Jesus used Marijuana

As doubtful as the following hypothesis might first seem to the reader, I might as well boldly state my case right from the start: either Jesus used marijuana or he was not the Christ. The very word "Christ", by the implication of its linguistic origins and true meaning, gives us the most profound evidence that Jesus did in fact use the same herb as his ancient semitic ancestors, and which is still used by people around the world for its enlightening and healing properties.

The Greek title "Christ" is the translation of the Hebrew word Messiah, which in English becomes "The Anointed". The Messiah was recognized as such by his being anointed with the holy anointing oil, the use of which was restricted to the instillation of Hebrew priests and kings. If Jesus was not initiated in this fashion then he was not the Christ, and had no official claim to the title.

The ancient recipe for this anointing oil, recorded in the Old Testament book of Exodus (30: 22-23) included over nine pounds of flowering cannabis tops, Hebrew "kaneh-bosm", extracted into a hind (about 6.5 litres) of olive oil, along with a variety of other herbs and spices. The ancient chosen ones were literally drenched in this potent cannabis holy oil.

http://www.cannabisculture.com/backissues/cc11/christ.html
 
No answer yet to my post 22 question, but if post 23 is correct, perhaps they only perceived (falsely due to the Cannabis fumes) that the oil burned for seven days.
 
PsychoTropicPuppy said:
^ I loled hard at the (cannabis fumes) comment.
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If funny for you, I am glad. I know nothing about cannabis from personnel experience. - Too old and too much of a "control freak" to have let any chemical, but ETOH, posses me. ETOH is very regular in its effects - I know what to expect. In moderation, (less than 1oz/ hour) it is just a food with relaxing side effects AFAIK.
 
Billy T said:
Is that the same oil that burned in the temple for seven days when it should have lasted for only one?
Do you think if mixed with petroleum "peak oil" could come seven times later? :shrug:
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No it's not.

But it's worth noting that the frankensence they use in church today- you know- when the priest lights up that stuff and smokes up the church- used to be cannabis until about 400 ad.

And while we're at it, the roses you always see surrounding the Virgin Mary also used to be cannabis.
 
jmpet said:
No it's not. But it's worth noting that the frankensence they use in church today- you know- when the priest lights up that stuff and smokes up the church- used to be cannabis until about 400 ad. And while we're at it, the roses you always see surrounding the Virgin Mary also used to be cannabis.
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Wait a minute, this is starting to sound like an ad for the Drug Policy Alliance.;)

I do know that there were no apple trees in ancient Mesopotamia, they were just not native to that region. The forbidden fruit that Eve tasted had to be a pomegranate, which was a staple food.
 
I just find it funny that the reality of the matter is all Christians are "followers of pot".

How many Christians out there?!!
 
PsychoTropicPuppy said:
Is there a religion that worships Cannabis? If yes, I'd immediately join! :O!
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I have been to Mesa Verde where the cliff dwellers lived. They had their religious ceremonies in poorly-ventilated, underground, chambers (Called "Kava" or "Kiva" or something like that, as I recall). That let all benefit from very little of the drug they smoked (or just let smolder in the center of the circular chamber). ("Peyote" or something like that, as I recall.) Search a little and correct my by memory post. Thanks.
 
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jmpet said:
Pretty straightforward question.
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"Anointed one" in Greek.
In the New Testament, it is used as a title for Jesus of Nazareth. However, due to peculiarities in the Greek language, titles are used as ad-hoc surnames, hence the common use of "Jesus Christ" to refer to Jesus of Nazareth, among Christians anyway.
 
Hapsburg said:
However, due to peculiarities in the Greek language, titles are used as ad-hoc surnames, hence the common use of "Jesus Christ" to refer to Jesus of Nazareth, among Christians anyway.
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"Iesous Christos" means simply "Joshua, the anointed one." To distinguish him from Joshua the blacksmith at the other end of town.
 
Christ means to be annointed.

JC would be "Jesus the annointed one."

Don't expect many religious people to actually know this ;)
 
Billy T said:
I have been to Mesa Verde where the cliff dwellers lived. They had their religious ceremonies in poorly-ventilated, underground, chambers (Called "Kava" or "Kiva" or something like that, as I recall). That let all benefit from very little of the drug they smoked (or just let smolder in the center of the circular chamber). ("Peyote" or something like that, as I recall.) Search a little and correct my by memory post. Thanks.
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Kava is a plant whose root is chewed in Polynesia socially as a mild intoxicant.

To my knowledge there is no evidence the Anasazi used peyote when they lived in the cliffs. more on them: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anasazi

However they are now known to have migrated south into Mexico, becoming among others the Huichol, who do make extensive use of peyote. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huichol

Central and South American tribes also use DMT (ayahuasca), Psilocybin Mushrooms, Saliva, and various other psychoactive compounds.

In theory these religious practices are now protected in the US and Unite Vegetal and Santo Daime have both recently won court cases protecting the use of DMT (ayahuasca).


http://www.udvusa.com/pdf/SupremeCourtDecision.pdf
http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/ayahuasca/ayahuasca_law24.shtml

Judge Panner writes, "Guided by the unanimous decision of the United States Supreme Court in a very similar case, Gonzales v. O Centro Espirita Beneficente Uniao de Vegetal, 546 U.S. 418 (2006), I conclude that the Religious Freedom Restoration Act, 42 U.S.C. 2000bb to 2000bb-4, requires that plaintiffs be allowed to import and drink Daime tea for their religious ceremonies, subject to reasonable restrictions."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/União_do_Vegetal
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santo_Daime
 
swarm said:
Kava is a plant whose root is chewed in Polynesia socially as a mild intoxicant.
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I did not conscously know that. Perhaps the underground chambers were called Kiva. I was at Mesa Verde more than 45 years ago. Perhaps now the pit I was told was a collapsed religious chamber was really just a garbage dump? My memory on it is not very clear and the official POV may have changed with more study.

Thanks for the links and information. BTW, as you seem well versed in psychodelic plants, I recall reading that morning glory seeds are psychodelic. Do you know it that is true?
 
Brian Foley said:
Jesus Christ is Greek for the Aramaic Joshua Messiah. . . .
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* * * * NOTE FROM THE LINGUISTICS MODERATOR * * * *

No, that is not Aramaic. Aramaic was the lingua franca of the Middle East from the era of the Assyrian Empire ca. 500BCE, until it began to be supplanted by Arabic in fairly recent times. And the Jews did indeed speak Aramaic as their vernacular language during the era in which the stories of the New Testament are set.

But they used Hebrew as their liturgical language, as they still do. Yehoshuah Mashiach is Hebrew, and Joshua Messiah is simply the Latin rendition which we use today.

Aramaic is of course a Semitic language related to Hebrew and Arabic. This website says that the Aramaic version of Yehoshuah Mashiach is Eashoa' M'sheekha. Close enough to show the clear relationship but not the same.
 
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