Schmelzer
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This is a theoretical possibility, maybe even supported by some research (if so, please refer to such research). But there are also other possibilities. Like the one that after the end of the CO2 boost the temperature goes down.You are ignoring the nature of AGW (it's not going to stop happening until it reaches a new equilibrium, which will take centuries after the end of the CO2 boost),
Laughable. How many people live today in buildings build less than 50 years ago? And even if the buildings are older than 50 years - how much has been invested into these buildings during the last 50 years? In reality we live in a society where infrastructure is usually depreciated within a 25 years period (see https://financeandbusiness.ucdavis....-financial-reporting/cap-asset/infrastructure ). That it often holds much longer is fine, but with my 50 years this is already accounted.as well as bizarrely screwing up the concept of the "lifetime" of infrastructure. And your notion of what will be cheap is quite silly - replacing what was built over centuries all at once every fifty years, even if that would adequately deal with the disastrous effects of AGW on the infrastructure of human civilization, would ruin most first world economies in one round.
Then, how much of the infrastructure is really endangered by warming? If there is much more precipitation, it is essentially the regions near rivers, and that related to agriculture, that's all. So, most buildings are not even endangered. Even a lot of infrastructure directly related with rivers will require only standard maintenance and nothing new. Big dams will work nicely as they should even with much more precipitation. Same for infrastructure which takes water from rivers for agriculture. This type of agricultural infrastructure:
also works if there is more rain, even more heavy rain, and does not need to build new, only maintained and probably strengthened - things which can be done by those working there even now.
It has nothing to do with climate science, it is about the existing technologies to handle such things like a warming as well as more precipitation. AGW is about the question if the climate is changing or not, and how it is changing, as well as what causes these changes.That is exactly the expectation, the prediction, of AGW researchers - it's what AGW is expected to require in response, by its predicted nature.
With "AGW researchers" you obviously mean alarmists. There has been one such paper about how the warming will influence crops, based on the influence of extreme weather events on crops today and extrapolating them. Which obviously cannot take into account that following a regular climate change people will switch to other crops which are more adequate for the new conditions. Laughable, but typical. Feel free to present something better.
No. Learn the basics of nuclear winter starting with Wiki: "Nuclear winter is a severe and prolonged global climatic cooling effect hypothesized[1][2] to occur after widespread firestorms following a nuclear war."That's a nuclear winter.
??????????????????????So no one in the future is going to have to deal with weather - only the global average temperature, rainfall, etc? Meanwhile, temperature spikes (which we routinely measure) don't exist, while some kind of "optimal temperature" no one can define does exist and is our key concept for analysis of AGW's effects. Got it.
Of course, people have to deal with weather, and with local climate and local temperature spikes in both directions. That you seem unable to understand elementary notions like global average temperature, and that it has an optimum which is well-defined by the condition that and the optimum temperature the largest number of human beings could survive on Earth, is your personal problem. What is your key concept I don't know, I see only a quite heavy sort of alarmism.
Why do you repeat obvious lies? Links please, liar.You propose to use it in response to disastrous heat waves and other AGW effects - that's what you say on your website, and what you post here. Those will all be local events, like the weather now.
No, I don't question the claimed nature, and I don't question the consequences, namely some warming and more precipitation in the average. I question that this will seriously harm humanity.You disagree about the nature and consequences of AGW, which is a consequence of the anthropogenic CO2 boost.
You are a LIAR! I do not propose such a thing. Stop such defamation, or support it with explicit quotes.Your posted solution to one of the posted effects of AGW, the increasing prevalence and severity of heat waves in densely populated and agriculturally productive areas - heat waves whose temperature spikes are expected to vary by location and time, as weather does, only over a wider range around a higher mean than the current climate regime supports - is to rapidly and temporarily cool the global atmosphere on average by creating a global nuclear winter.
The increase in leaf area is already happening. And it is certainly something positive.Among the serious large scale effects of AGW on human civilization, the negative ones are expected to come first.
Nonsense. Stability of equilibrium of a climate is something about at least thousands of years. To switch crops you need only a few years. At most tens of years.The major positive ones - if any - are not expected for many years (or centuries) if ever (most positive effects on agriculture require the stability of equilibrium or near to , for example).
Feel free to refer to papers. (You don't do it because you know I will take a look into them and find that you have completely missed their point.)That's according to the AGW researchers, of course, whose reports you - like other denialists - have not read, and whose findings you ignore.