US cops v US ambo's
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Asguard, do the aussie cops hand cuff dead people?
i doubt it, its a danger to the paramedics as well as usless for the pt. If your asking WHY i said it look at joe's post, he is the one who said that when he used to do that work that the he would have pts who were critically injured OR DEAD that the cops handcuffed and that compromised his treatment
Isn't it though? Similar to what happens when you mention the word "god" in the presence of otherwise intelligent and rational people.
What post are you referring to here, John? Just letting you know that it is very unclear, or I am misinterpreting the context, or just don't get it, or... ... something...
Doubtful, remain, may be... Are you actually asserting anything here John? Or just covering all the bases?
it's called pandering to humanity's bloodlust.
you see this sort of stuff everywhere, peoples fascination with car wrecks for example.
who's holding cops beyond reproach?
no, what's amazing is how everyone seems to be an armchair cop, and a good one too!
and the thing that complicates the matter is that it's highly unlikely that anyone responding to this thread was an actual witness.
question for you tiassa, have you ever been treated by a cop the way these clips depict? be honest.
the major reason, i believe, that cops have such a hard go of it is the simple reason that none of us is innocent. we all are guilty of some minor, trivial BS.
what's you first reaction to a cop arriving on the scene?
wonder what happened?
wonder who's going to jail?
and since no one is innocent it starts a natural defense from people.
aren't people allowed to carry firearms and drive cars though? running from the cops and stealing a car doesn't give cops the right to shoot you.
jason bourne bashed people with newspapers, if someone runs from the cops and is carrying a newspaper, should they shoot them too?
the circumstances surrounding the aforementioned issue dictates what constitutes force. since i wasn't there and i have not read any verifiable information i can not say whether the cop did or did not have "the right" to use deadly force.
i could imagine scenarios where the cop would have a right to.
for example, jason was busted 15 times for carrying sawed off shotguns in rolled up newspapers and had a rap sheet a mile long.
cops do not shoot you for "just carrying a newspaper"
Because a helicopter can't actually stop the car, nor can you easily stop the helicopter to get out and pursue the perp on foot.
Do you actually think before you ask questions?
I'm not saying in that actual situation, but in the situation described by the article, where the suspect is only guilty of running from the police and stealing the car. of course its possible the suspect started throwing knives at the officer, or screamed 'die pig die' while accelerating towards him, that would warrant a shootout.
the point i was trying to make with the newspaper thing is that even a newspaper can be deadly, so saying 'well the car he stole can be used as a weapon' is poor justification for shooting him. it'd set precedent for shooting anyone in a car. yes its a cop car and might have guns in it, but americans can carry guns anyway (right?), whats to say he hasn't had his twin gold plated desert eagles holstered under his jacket the whole time?
mate if your talking about what i posted he was reversing AWAY from the cop the whole time. you could see the cop in the police cars video camera and its unlikly to have been edited because those are time stamped and the time never jumped from the time the guy was standing there cuffed while the copper walked to the front of the suspects car till the officer opened fire. the guy made no threatning moves, just stole the car and reversed off.
as for screamuing "die cop, die" who cares even if he did? words arnt enough to qualify for deadly force
as for screamuing "die cop, die" who cares even if he did? words arnt enough to qualify for deadly force
if he was driving straight at the cop (as suggested) while he screamed it, i would think it fair enough for the cop to shoot. i'd be trying to get out of the way while i shot though lol.
otherwise i agree with you, car theft doesn't warrant getting shot.
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