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Giambattista said:
... I don't know whether the actual term like or liking comes into any of this. Before you get to the subject of aliens, alien abductions and all the rest of the stuff associated with extraterrestrials y'have to establish clearly and unequivocally that there's a something in the first place to get all worked up and hot under the collar about the rest - that means establishing whether or not a thing that conforms to UFO characteristics, as a form of vehicular means, is physically possible.
Without that, you've got jack.
There are all manner of theoretical possibilities when it comes to the sorts of physics usually associated with UFO's, some tenable, some not at all. The net is full of the stuff - The problem with them all is you can't know whether or not the solution you come up with is actually the case - unless you can actually apply the sorts of physics one comes up with you don't know whether the idea actually works. Or not.
Looking at the problem in terms of applied physics circumvents that drawback.
Providing one doesn't attribute either properties or behaviours not credibly acknowledged as being part and parcel of the sorts of physical principals you're using you're dealing with quantities that are both known in terms of how they work; calculable, in terms of what is required of them and to what effect; predictable in terms of how these physical principals can be expressed and demonstrable in actual practice.
Now, were the sorts of physical principals I've been outlining specifically to you regarding this a-propulsive idea of a UFO merely one of simple convince alone - ie, neat idea, seems to fit, it'll do - I wouldn't be pushing it. Unless the idea is actually relevant to purportedly "real" UFO behaviour it doesn't have any direct baring consequently it's just an idea.
But the more you go through alleged UFO sightings the more you come to realise that what's being described isn't the consequence of the thing simply being a UFO - ie, something all spooky and mysterious and just doing things in order to facilitate a late night scare story - but rather as the consequence of it being an actual object constrained to behave in accordance with whatever physical principals actually underly it.
An actual real world physical object conforming to real world physics.
Specifically the ones I've been outlining - that's why I believe it to be possibly relevant.
I personally may not particularly like that, in fact given my often negligible tolerance for all manner of topics UFO, I frankly find it damn inconvenient and a monumental potential pain in the arse to boot, but whilst people continue to be banging it back and forth endlessly hither and yon, all the time people are arguing about this and flapping away about the other the simple fact remains that yes, actually, a thing that you could only describe as being a UFO is actually physically possible - here's how.
Since it's all the sort of stuff taught in high school level general science classes it makes it kind of hard to argue with...
UFO believers of course, hate the notion. Not really my problem. I don't actually believe in UFO's - they either exist or they don't, without them y'don't get any of the rest. The physics book says they can, until I know better I'm somewhat stuck with it.
As to your sighting:
I did a bit of rummaging and located a couple of snaps of drones conforming roughly to your description of what you saw - as soon as you first relayed your story I immediately pictured a Cypher - that's the first one, US Marine Corps remote surveillance drone. The second one, The Sentinel, was a prototype only civilian development built for tender for the Canadian Government - the description you gave of it being top heavy stuck in my mind.
Neither conform exactly to what you saw, equally neither are capable of the sorts of speeds you relay - the Cypher is developed to be relatively quiet, but both their both designed for strategic Ob's not combat deployment.
The faster remote drones fall along the lines of the Predator, third along - there's also stealthed up version of the Predator, looks like a UFO noisy as hell.
If you're thinking still along the lines of some form of lighter than air craft - your fundamental problem becomes that of explaining how you're LTA Craft began accelerating at speed back and forth in the manner you describe - if it's lighter than air and propulsed - the engine also has to be lighter than air otherwise the craft simply isn't. Couple that with the fact that this LTA structure equally has to be as physically robust as any other form of conventional jet powered aircraft - and indeed, you have one irreconcilable mystery on your hands.
Your thingies, whatever they were, couldn't have been both LTA and physically propulsed at the same time - not really to the sorts of speeds you describe.
I'm not being biased, it's just the fact that what you would be describing when viewed in such exact terms would require extraordinary physics to explain - but only if in fact what appears to be a LTA object physically actually is.
In my previous response you are left with a description of something which, especially at low speeds, would hold a course not at all unlike that one could expect more conventionally from a balloon. I realise in my description, from what you relay, you get the impression (with regards to the thing batting back and forth at higher speeds) that what I'm describing would be some sort of circular course - but actually, in the diagram, I do indicate quite clearly that its actual path would be pretty tight (actually a very tight figure of 8) and as you initially relayed, over the course of it behaving in this side to side fashion before shooting off you do relay the observation as being increasing hard to make out clearly - a fact no doubt compounded by its speed, but from the angle you were observing from, might not also some degree of increase in distance between yourself and its actual position have been the case?
An observation suggesting strongly that, though not travelling away in a southerly direction terribly far, as it was shooting backward and forth east to west it was also moving away from you.
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... I know what y'mean, they are rather Bond, James Bond.... The prototypes however, they were all originally knocked up out of salvaged parts, other than the airframe. A thing like a Cypher's very doable y'know... 
