///... to continue, case in point with gems like this. Define God in a non-tyrannical manner and onwards we go ...
So the god you claim to believe in is not a tyrant?
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///... to continue, case in point with gems like this. Define God in a non-tyrannical manner and onwards we go ...
So its all good☺Sure.
Defeating a caricature of an idea just renders one's self as a caricature.
I know I should study more culture religion history philosophy I do agree there are many levels.At a certain point you have to start talking in terms of something greater than caricatures of religion or the philosophy (if you can call it that) peddled by jehovah's witnesses.
///Never the less I think religion holds things together for many and I for one should not focus on the negatives as all organisations will have their problems and really what can you do to curb the desire of any group to expand its base.
Preach peace and harmony and positive virtues but dont expect to have others accept your world view and all will be fine.
I wonder ....
Atheists dont believe any one has established a God and probably think wider than say a believer who knows there is only one God...theirs...so all the others never get thought of...but I guess to a degree to an atheist they just have one more on the list that they dont accept.
So Jan possibly will reject Thor and the rest of them as say I would but stops at that approach when he goes to analyse his God.
Thats what people do...they have their reasons.
So theists could be 99.9 % atheist when you think of the large number of Gods they dont beleive in.
Anyways Jan and Musica seem like nice people so perhaps we should all look for things we agree on...could that be so difficult☺
Alex
It's more the issue that the God you believe in is a tyrant.///
So the god you claim to believe in is not a tyrant?
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///It's more the issue that the God you believe in is a tyrant.
You're the only one advocating God is a tyrant. Assuming what you post here bears some relationship to your opinions, it seems to play a role in supporting your atheism.///
I do not believe in any god. You know that. Answer the question.
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The problem with that is the lumping of atheists - some are religious, some are not, and a wide variety of religions are involved.The above refers to those for some reason class atheists as belonging to a religion
What about the theists?
///You're the only one advocating God is a tyrant. Assuming what you post here bears some relationship to your opinions, it seems to play a role in supporting your atheism.
Then that still leaves us squarely with you, and your beliefs about God.///
I do not assume anything you post is related to your opinion. If you have an opinion.
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lumping of atheists - some are religious, some are not,
That is simply a denial of reality - nothing but confusion will follow. There are and have been hundreds of millions of areligious theists and religious atheists, both. These are normal, standard, common categories of ways to live as a human being.remember in this debate religious = belief in god,
I named a few of the standard atheistic religions and atheistic kinds of religions - the animisms, etc. There are online resources for specific ones such as the Navajo tribal religion, and of course the atheistic Buddhist and Taoist traditions are well known and easily researched.Atheists who are religious -- not compute Will Robinson Error Error Reboot required
As long as we're responding to caricatures like you and Jan Ardena, it's hard not to. When you're talking to a duck, you have to quack.Further evidence that you struggle to take discussion points beyond caricature.
The Biblical God isn't a tyrant? That's easier to prove than his existence.It's more the issue that the God you believe in is a tyrant.
Well, but keep in mind that most Christians cherry pick the Bible VERRRY carefully. First they throw out the Old Testament. Then they throw out parts of the New Testament because they're not "indicative" or something of God. The parts they are left with can be used to demonstrate God is . . . well, whatever they want him to be.The Biblical God isn't a tyrant? That's easier to prove than his existence.
Surprise me.As long as we're responding to caricatures like you and Jan Ardena, it's hard not to. When you're talking to a duck, you have to quack.
Well .. there's your belief in GodThe Biblical God isn't a tyrant? That's easier to prove than his existence.
You are the one pointing me to scriptures full of gory details.Well .. there's your belief in God