Theist tries to tell atheists what they believe

Trek said:
Isn’t space IN the universe?
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No, this is a common misunderstanding.
The universe incorporates everything that exists.

The BB is not something expanding 'into' space, that something IS the space, there is nothing outside of it.
 
Trek said:
You cannot even bring yourself to talk about God
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Reported again. Idiot.

Firstly STOP LYING pretending I have not answered, I have given you multiple answers now regarding god.

An infinite all powerful creator which I rejected because of scripture and science explaining the universe. There you go is that three or four times?

And again STOP LYING, I have made two threads, one all about god and me losing my religion the other about Jesus.
Now stop being so lazy, stop lying, stop trolling stop gas lighting stop mimicking Jan Ardena and pretending everyone is scared to talk about god, and read my threads.
 
Pinball1970 said:
An infinite all powerful creator which I rejected because of scripture and science explaining the universe. There you go is that three or four times?
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There are more questions.
The last question I asked you you reported me that question was why don’t you accept God?
A simple question.
Just bear with me, I’ll ask you a couple more questions just so that I can get an understanding of how you see God
 
Trek said:
The last question I asked you you reported me that question was why don’t you accept God?
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There are no reasons to accept God because there is no evidence for God, and you yourself have admitted evidence to the origins of the universe stands with BB theory.
 
Trek said:
What is your definition of God?
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That is a self defeating question, it answers nothing because any definition of God will be standard dictionary terms or personal ones that have no evidence to support it. Useless question.
 
Trek said:
There are more questions.
The last question I asked you you reported me that question was why don’t you accept God?
A simple question.
Just bear with me, I’ll ask you a couple more questions just so that I can get an understanding of how you see God
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Here you go.


Losing your religion

Clearly, Pinball, you're not new to this. Why act like yo are? Or, have you not, in all this time since the '70s, grown beyond the basic talking points? The thread was really just a “why did you lose/keep your faith? A personal journey, that is what James gave I thought, sincerely, it would be...
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(Q) said:
That is a self defeating question, it answers nothing because any definition of God will be standard dictionary terms or personal ones that have no evidence to support it. Useless question.
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It doesn’t matter.
As an atheist you lack a belief in GOD.
So what is it that you lack a belief in?
 
(Q) said:
There are no reasons to accept God because there is no evidence for God, and you yourself have admitted evidence to the origins of the universe stands with BB theory.
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How do you know there is no evidence?
Do you think you would know if there was evidence?
 
DaveC426913 said:
and yet he continues to try to turn the entire bus around and point it at 'why do atheists think there is no evidence of God'.
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I can show you that your reason for your atheism has nothing to do with lack of evidence.
 
Trek said:
I can show you that your reason for your atheism has nothing to do with lack of evidence.
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Sure. Start a thread on that. I see foghorn has already reported it.

Atheism has everything to do with sufficient objective evidence.

Nobody cares if you personally believe God answers all your questions. You have set a low bar. All that matters is if you can defend it against others have set a much higher bar before they will be convinced.

Over in the UFO thread, Magical Realist makes the same mistake. His bar for unexplainable unearthly phenomena is set at 'it's in the sky and I can't see wings'

See, technically, MR is presenting what he considers evidence. The act of presenting it, and his explanation for it are what make it his evidence on-offer.

But by any rational standard it is so weak it can be dismissed immediately (because there are much more rational reasons why objects in the sky - such as conventional airplanes - might not appear to have wings.

This is perfectly analogous to your offer of what you consider evidence. You say (paraphrasing here) your evidence for God is the creation of the universe and abiogenesis.

And we say that is so weak it simply doesn't count. Those phenomena are explainable through natural means. Abiogenesis and The Big Bang do not rule out natural origins, and they certainly don't rule in God.

Which is why saying 'there is insufficient evidence that points to the existence of God' is more accurate than 'there is no evidence for God'.
You keep getting hung up on this idea of no evidence. If you honestly want to keep the discussion going, let that go.

Just like you keep getting hung up on the problematic wording in the title. If you honestly want to keep the discussion going, let it go.
 
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Trek said:
Because the so called evidence you mention is nothing but you’re personal opinion, which doesn’t count as actual evidence.
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I provided scientific evidence, whether you like it or not.
It is you who is lacking in evidence of any kind. Pointing to a tree or a burning bush does not suggest a greater universal wisdom.

Here is your proof of Alpha Chimp protecting his troop from that unseen threat in the sky.
 
Trek said:
As an atheist you lack a belief in GOD.
So what is it that you lack a belief in
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You don't learn do you? If you are interested in why we lack faith either:

Go on an existing thread discussing this
Start your own.

I now just think that you know full well that your "proof/evidence/arguments" are so unbelievably poor you have just decided to deflect instead.
 
Trek said:
I think you are just itching to report me.
That is no basis for a discussion, plus it is very childish.
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It is only the schoolyard troublemaker that decries the intervention of the principal.
Only the criminally-minded that disparage the involvement of the police.
 
Pinball1970 said:
Stop lying.
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He will not.

Trek said:
.You just want me to get banned.
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The only person who can get you banned is you.

All you have to do is stop committing infractible offenses. If you are not sure what they are, it's time for a review of the site rules, which you agreed to (again) when you signed up (again).

There's even an entire subforum devoted to site feedback, of which you can avail yourself at any time.

Here's a question for you: with all these resources available, why are you trying to get yourself banned (again)?
 
Of course we could believe in God as an entangled binary object. A Quantum "yin-yang".....?

Quantum 'yin-yang' shows two photons being entangled in real-time​

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Scientists have used a first-of-its-kind technique to visualize two entangled light particles in real time — making them appear as a stunning quantum "yin-yang" symbol.

The new method, called biphoton digital holography, uses an ultra high-precision camera and could be used to massively speed up future quantum measurements. The researchers published their findings Aug. 14 in the journal Nature Photonics.
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Quantum 'yin-yang' shows two photons being entangled in real-time

The stunning experiment, which reconstructs the properties of entangled photons from a 2D interference pattern, could be used to design faster quantum computers.
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