If you remember, the Democrats were the original ones cozy to the Russians. The Republicans were the war hawks who were more interested in maintaining a cool war. Under Obama and Hillary the Russians were sold a company that had 1/5 of the US supply of uranium. How can anything be more of a threat to the US than more nukes for the evil Russians that the Democrats now hate so much?
That’s nonsense, pure unmitigated bullshit. Both Democrats and Republicans were anti-Soviet during the Cold War. It was a Democratic president who threatened the Soviet Union with nuclear war during the Cuban Missile Crisis. Yeah, it’s those damn facts again comrade Wellwisher.
Hillary and Obama didn’t sell Russia an American uranium company. Hillary, in her role as Secretary of State was one of 9 government departments, including the Defense Department, which approved the deal. That Uranium company didn’t pick up all of its uranium and move to Russia. All the uranium is still in the ground. It’s still in the US and still controlled by the US government. Oops.
Remember the hot mike comment that Obama made, about I will have more flexibility after the election? That was in 2012. He promised to be cozier than he could be in public during the campaign season. This cozy changed when the Democrats loss the election and needed a narrative to leverage against the Trump presidency, who threaten to drain the swamp of this type of dealing. Trump passed an executive order that does not allow government employees to lobby for foreign nations. Obama was set up for the $500,000 speeches to Russia but Trump messed that up with his executive order. That pissed them off.
The hot mike comment was with respect to a nuclear arms deal. That’s another oops. The truth is both Hillary and Obama have been very tough on your beloved Putin. That’s why Putin intervened in our election and helped elect Trump. Putin wants the sanctions imposed by Obama and Hillary removed. It appears Trump has promised to remove those sanctions.
Unfortunately for you comrade Wellwisher, the truth still matters.
Tens of millions of dollars from uranium investors flowed into the Clinton Foundation, and Bill Clinton received a $500,000 speaking fee from a Russian bank tied to the Kremlin before Secretary of State Hillary Clinton helped decide whether to approve the sale to the Russian government of a company that held one-fifth of America’s uranium capacity. This is the real crime that is being distracted from. Trump did not do anything even close to this, so why is Trump's alleged connection more treasonous? It is a scam designed to distract.
And your evidence is where? Where are those tens of millions of dollars and when did the flow into the Clinton foundation? Yeah, it’s those damn facts again Comrade Wellwisher. The fact is Hillary Clinton was one of 9 department heads that signed off on the deal. Some people connected to the deal donated money to the Clinton Foundation but that was long before the deal and long before Hillary became Secretary of State. Oops. Where are the bribes Russia paid the Secretary of Defense or Obama? There were no bribes or evidence of bribes as you and your right wing cohorts assert. And on top of that, unlike Trump, the Clintons do not take money from their foundation – period. Their foundation is operated by a board of directors and overseen by an independent national accounting firm. Do I hear another oops?
As for speaking fees, Bill Clinton did give one speech to a firm with Russian connections. But there was nothing unusual about the event. Bill Clinton routinely gives speeches around the globe for his customary 500,000 dollar fee.
And here is the thing, even though Russia now owns the company, it cannot by law export US uranium. None of that uranium can leave the US. Oops. Unfortunately for you comrade the truth still matters.
The game works like this. Picture two siblings playing inside the house and one breaks a family heirloom. The son knows he is in deep trouble, when his mother finds out. So, to avoid being blamed, he runs out to meet his mother, to blame his brother, before the mother can assess the situation. This creates doubt that he will need to double down on. The new FBI director may need to investigate this. The real question should be what did the Russians hear for $500,000? Hillary never showed the transcripts from her high price talks to Wall Street, because it came from her other face and not her campaign propaganda. What did Bill reveal or promise to the Russians?
Picture if it was found out, by the Russians, that Bill lied to the Russians, while still taking their money. Would the Russians be mad at the Clintons and would they try to get even by tampering with the election? This needs to be investigated. What did Bill say that would cause the Russians to target the DNC? It was well known the Obamas and Clintons were not the best of buddies.
Trump and Russia makes no sense, since Trump was a long shot from the beginning of the election process. Why bet on the long shot when you already had a money relationship with the Clintons? This is a game of distraction, to lower suspicion on the Clintons. Hillary won the popular vote. My money is on a Clinton-Russian connection. The Russian are being made a scapegoat so this angle can't be investigated without guilt by association. The new FBI director made need to investigate this.
Here is an interesting montage, that compares words from Obama months before the election and Comey just before the election. They appear to use the same speech writer and acting coach. Trump was smart to get rid of Comey since he was too close to the Obama, with Obama's legacy at risk.
The game works like this, one right wing wacko tells another a bizarre fantasy, and they tell another and another and before you know it you have a humongous right wing conspiracy fantasy.
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