Vociferous
Valued Senior Member
Even if that leftist fantasy were a possibility, there is no "should" about it. Impeachment by both the House and Senate only has one outcome.pick one...
What should happen to Trump if found Guilty in impeachment proceedings in the Senate?
Keeping in mind the significance of what is happening...
I can't even imagine what you fantasize the significance may be, as I live in the real world, where independents are souring on the impeachment effort, rather than your very tiny bubble.
This is either projection or plain old ignorance. You bring up an irrelevancy without even trying to connect it to your argument, and then just claim someone else is posting irrelevancies.You don't know what an effective tax rate is? That explains your posting of irrelevancies like the Federal personal income tax tables.
If that really addresses your claim that "Very rich people pay similar to lower tax rates than poor people, on average, in the US", then you should be able to cite a source that makes that case. Percentage of taxes paid relative to income is a meaningless argument. US taxes are still very progressive, and 1% still pay more into federal revenue than the majority. Neither fact is in any way altered by the percentage paid relative to income.Ok: Effective tax rates are the taxes actually paid divided by the wealth (denominated in currency, usually) actually received: the percentage of one's yearly income - all of it, in all forms - one pays in taxes for that year - all of them, in all forms.
So, like I said, just arm-waving.
Irrelevancies that do nothing to support your argument? I agreed. All your posts are like that.All of my posts are reality based, like that.
If you only had a clue how intelligent people are reading that.That protects me from posting the Federal personal income tax tables as evidence for the wealthy actually paying that percentage of their yearly income in taxes, which would be embarrassing.
Those figures I cited explicitly said "paid", not just taxed at those rates.
No, you just made more bare assertions. Yawn.I did support that - listed a few mechanisms, argument, etc. I didn't put much effort into the obvious, of course - what for?
Where did I ever claim it wasn't true? I just put the onus on you for your own claim. If you were intellectually honest, you'd support it, instead of trying to shift the burden for your own claim. Conversely, there are many real-world examples of businesses closing, cutting hours, and/or cutting jobs due to mandated $15/hr. You have yet to show a single, real-world example of your claim. Or is that your claim? That cutting hours and jobs means that remaining employees MUST be more productive, least they face the chopping block next or the business goes under entirely?Meanwhile:
Are you denying that - claiming it isn't true that people are often less productive when paid less - or are you just trolling the thread by demanding other people do work while you generate crap you never intend to endorse (because, as I noted, it would make you look dumb and ignorant)?
Again, that only works in an economy where jobs are scarce.
Obviously you're just looking to excuses to be lazy. Yawn.Because if you aren't, there's no point in me doing work; and if you are, I need something that stupid in a plain, simple, declarative statement you can't weasel out of somehow.
Sure, even though Independents and even Democrats are starting to sour on impeachment. So much so that Shiff said he wants to consult his constituents before deciding on impeachment. Either its a cut and dried case or it isn't. Public opinion only matters when it's just political theater.They don't. They keep accumulating.
Trump is being well and truly buried, here - the only remaining question is what to do about the guy. He is the President, after all - he has a lot of power, a bent toward gratuitous cruelty against the vulnerable, and a loyal base of thugs. As with Al Capone in Chicago - everybody knows, everybody fears.