The Totally Not Weird Thread

[Tiassa]

#SampleInAJar | #TotallyNotWeird​

Sample in a jar: Click to change the subject.​

Some guy named Derek observes↱:

Trump supporters are carrying around a pretend jar of JD Vance’s jizz to mock Democrats that are unable to conceive children, just in case anyone wonders why we think they are a cult and just plain fucking weird​

Filmmaker and investigative journalist Lindsay Beyerstein asserts↱:

You know why they're carrying JD Jizz Cups? To make fun of the Walz's for conceiving via IVF. The more you know, the grosser it gets.​

Okay, so: Look, there's a complicated discussion that can go here about the tenuous relationship between prim Boomer moral façades and subsequent generations, on through the altchan frogs and into the mainstream conservative culture of grievance we now experience and endure.

(I remember when people who were totally not supremacists kept whining about "grievance studies" at universities, in order to disrupt historical discourse about women and nonwhites their beliefs found distressing. Now that it's clear this was just another conservative misdirection, we can only wonder how many would pretend they didn't know. Hint: The difference is in how the truth affects a person's behavior and argument in such matters. The well-intended who legitimately fell for a dumb idea change course when they figure it out, instead of digging in. But, sure, there are at least a few people who ought to be embarrassed.)​

While, once upon a time, GenX used to be anxious to confront authority, what we see in the J.D. Jizzcups is the turning of that punkish, "in-your-face" attitude rejecting arbitrary authority turned toward conservative bitterness; it's kind of like the part where every high school class feels like they're the first one to be forbidden hazing.

And it's kind of like "teabaggers" and other such self-inflicted wounds. They're carrying around specimen cups, apparently with a fake semen sample inside, and J.D. Vance's face on the label. And, apparently, they're doing this to mock IVF. (It's true, I had guessed, at first glance, they were mocking childless women.)

Still, this is just one of those things that is totally not the sick burn they think it is. Sick, sure, but they're only scorching themselves.

 

[Jeeves]

Sick, sure, but they're only scorching themselves.

How do they think they're not suggesting artificial insemination?
But maybe not everyone gets burned. Trump is already having his own cups printed, raised fist and all, to retail for $500 a shot.

 

[TheVat]

Those are the cutest cups Vance has ever come across.

 

[sculptor]

Our quadrennial political entertainment does seem to bring out the weird in people
or
just maybe it brings out the weird people.

I have not attended a political rally in over 40 years.
I get all the weird I want in visiting retail establishments.

 

[foghorn]

I get all the weird I want in visiting retail establishments.

Weird?
Going by your avatar, perhaps that may have something to do with your attire Sculptor?

 

[sculptor]

Weird?
Going by your avatar, perhaps that may have something to do with your attire Sculptor?

It's just a statue/sculpture
it ain't weird
but, maybe
weird is in the eye/brain of the beholder?

 

[Jeeves]

It's just a statue/sculpture
it ain't weird
but, maybe
weird is in the eye/brain of the beholder?

Seems a tad underprepared for combat... But, while quartermaster supply shortfalls may be inconvenient, there's nothing weird about them. (OTOH, there is no obvious reason he can't contribute promptly to right-wing family values.)

 

[Seattle]

They are so weird.

 

[Tiassa]

#likethatwasntweird | #oncue​

They are so weird.

You make the point so perfectly.

Spoiler

 

[Seattle]

#likethatwasntweird | #oncue​

You make the point so perfectly.

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Spoiler

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I keep trying to tell you that but you won't listen.

 

[Tiassa]

#WereTheyAlwaysWeird | #YouWouldntBelieve​

I keep trying to tell you that but you won't listen.

Oh, nay, sir, we know you're weird.

Seriously, the Reaganista↗, forty years later, still looking for pigtails to dip.

What is it with your personal obsession? It's been all of two and a half weeks since you tried to drag my mother↗ into your obsessive incapability.

Early in the trend about J.D. Vance being weird, someone made the obvious point about different kinds of weird, because Republicans never aimed for the less dangerous and alarming sort of weirdness. Fashion victim, for instance. Or, pineapple on pizza. In recent times I've started to grasp the idea of Pokémon weird, but that's also really scary and its own discussion.

Anyway, it's been over a decade, man. If you can't see this hatred you insist on carrying is itself just weird, whatever. I mean, if I'm so useless, why would anyone waste their time on me, like that, especially to such self-denigrating result. But, yeah, the more stalky and obsessive you try to make yourself out to be, the more I'm willing to believe it's not an act and that's really who you are.

Also, the fact that conservatives are so bad at basic turnabout is its own sort of weird.

I thought white guy tacos, for instance, was throwback-weird; I mean, I get it, but it's a mix of northern-Protestant (very Lutheran) obscurity and can't-jump hashtag pop appeal. It's one thing if white guy tacos means different things to different people, but, wow, Republicans went and made that weird. Awkward. Vicariously embarrassing. That kind of weird. It's not so much blowing the Turkey Hot Dish line, but that anybody even tried in the first place; it was always a doomed retort. The rush to embarrass themselves is weird.

And your blend of stalker and brute is just puerile. One of the fascinating analyses that will emerge, later, is the examination of why, after everything else, a vague and blurry word like weird was the one that finally cracked them, this way.

 

[geordief]

#WereTheyAlwaysWeird | #YouWouldntBelieve​

Oh, nay, sir, we know you're weird.

Seriously, the Reaganista↗, forty years later, still looking for pigtails to dip.

What is it with your personal obsession? It's been all of two and a half weeks since you tried to drag my mother↗ into your obsessive incapability.

Early in the trend about J.D. Vance being weird, someone made the obvious point about different kinds of weird, because Republicans never aimed for the less dangerous and alarming sort of weirdness. Fashion victim, for instance. Or, pineapple on pizza. In recent times I've started to grasp the idea of Pokémon weird, but that's also really scary and its own discussion.

Anyway, it's been over a decade, man. If you can't see this hatred you insist on carrying is itself just weird, whatever. I mean, if I'm so useless, why would anyone waste their time on me, like that, especially to such self-denigrating result. But, yeah, the more stalky and obsessive you try to make yourself out to be, the more I'm willing to believe it's not an act and that's really who you are.

Also, the fact that conservatives are so bad at basic turnabout is its own sort of weird.

I thought white guy tacos, for instance, was throwback-weird; I mean, I get it, but it's a mix of northern-Protestant (very Lutheran) obscurity and can't-jump hashtag pop appeal. It's one thing if white guy tacos means different things to different people, but, wow, Republicans went and made that weird. Awkward. Vicariously embarrassing. That kind of weird. It's not so much blowing the Turkey Hot Dish line, but that anybody even tried in the first place; it was always a doomed retort. The rush to embarrass themselves is weird.

And your blend of stalker and brute is just puerile. One of the fascinating analyses that will emerge, later, is the examination of why, after everything else, a vague and blurry word like weird was the one that finally cracked them, this way.

I think "weird" works because it distances us from analysing them and lets them be hoist on their own petard.

Sadly they may still get the better of us but we may at least get the choice whether to laugh or cry.

I think I read a long time ago that the worst disease was "being normal".

Being called "weird" may get up their noses bc "they" think "Hey I am not weird.I am normal
You are the weird one"

 

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Those are the cutest cups Vance has ever come across.

I prefer a nice DD.

 

[Seattle]

And your blend of stalker and brute is just puerile.

Yet it has it's charm wouldn't you agree?

 

[Tiassa]

Being called "weird" may get up their noses bc "they" think "Hey I am not weird.I am normal
You are the weird one"

That's just it. There's an historical and demographic mess that explains these particular variations on the theme, but my entire lifetime has seen the rules of exclusion and stratification simplify every time things get messy; in the moment, the same old alienation insists, but can no longer enforce its superstitions.

It's kind of like the time the witches stood outside the nuclear plants, holding mirrors to reflect the evil back toward whence it came, except this time it worked because nuclear reactors don't have feelings. After generations of pretending to be the real victims, here, the struggling remnants of a dying ideology suddenly find themselves alienated in a manner actually outside their control Instead of calling them immoral, or evil, or whatever, the simple idea that they are the deviation seems to have pierced.

It's like #TamponTim; not only did they make up part of the story just because, they actually thought the availability of sanitary products would somehow run against Gov. Walz. I'm not certain, but it seems like it's not so many elections ago, it would have. It's almost like they burned all of that old-timey superstition on the pussygrabber. And their deep bench includes Nikki Haley, the Indian-American who wants to be a Nazi mom; Vivek Ramaswamy, who, like Haley, is the wrong ethnicity for Republicans, and for everyone else is just plain weird; and Ron DeSantis, who is totally not weird even when he's not working hard to ruin Florida. Who's their next-in-line that isn't weird?

 

[Thus Spoke]

Walz didn’t do in vitro fertilization. He did intrauterine insemination, which does not involve embryos being discarded.

 

[Sarkus]

The Reps and Vance will hound him for "lying" about his IVF journey... even though he never explicitly stated that they had IVF, I believe. At least not recently. I think he's been careful to refer to his family's own journey as "fertility treatment". But then he may have (deliberately or otherwise) referred to the term "IVF" as if synonymous with fertility treatment in general.
Either way, while his wife has recently clarified their personal journey in the press, I think Walz will need to do some clarification of his own in his speeches, if only to defuse the situation, to get ahead of it. Vance has so little else to say that accusing Walz of lying about this, and his service history, will give him something to fill his time.

 

[Thus Spoke]

No, he said it.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1764715818728783972

What’s weird is that Walz embellished his fertility issues to relate to the people concerned about the Wrongful Death of a Minor Act applying to an embryo that exists in a lab, as with IVF. The law already applied to fetuses developing in utero, like in the Walz’ case.

What’s weird is that the couples seeking punitive damages for what they said was the wrongful death of their children, were the ones that caused IVF clinics to pause their services.

What’s even weirder is that the decision by the Alabama Supreme Court was in support of families engaged in the IVF process.

Like they say, you can’t have your cake and eat it too.

 

[Jeeves]

Walz didn’t do in vitro fertilization. He did intrauterine insemination,

I'm pretty sure he did neither. I have to wonder why, in any technologically advanced first-world country, this is anybody else's business. Is there nothing at all remains private in American politics?

Wrongful death of an embryo??! How weird is that?

 

[geordief]

What’s weird is that Walz embellished his fertility issues to relate to the people concerned about the Wrongful Death of a Minor Act applying to an embryo that exists in a lab, as with IVF. The law already applied to fetuses developing in utero, like in the Walz’ case.

What’s weird is that the couples seeking punitive damages for what they said was the wrongful death of their children, were the ones that caused IVF clinics to pause their services.

What’s even weirder is that the decision by the Alabama Supreme Court was in support of families engaged in the IVF process.

Like they say, you can’t have your cake and eat it too.

Those quotes don't read to me like he was "embellishing " his story.

In that sentence ,"it" can refer to either "Reproductive care" or "IVF "

Is that all they have or are there other quotes to clarify what he said then or at other times?