The problem of Religion.

[Lord Insane]

It's ok. We all have our delusions.

I am glad, that you have realised, that you have a delusion .......

 

[Lord Insane]

Again, evolution is not good or bad. It does not make better or worse.

But evolution gave us a brain - also intelligence and we are able to make morals ...... incredible but true .......

 

[Lord Insane]

Civilisation is a myth, it is merely adaptation to secure the persistence of genes.

Actually , civilization do exist in real life - and yes, civilization do secure the persistence of genes ........

 

[Lord Insane]

You have deluded yourself into believing you are an advanced animal, really you are nothing more than the triumph of bacteria, a factory created by them so their genes would survive effectively.

Get over it.

Well , the intelligence of homo sapiens, combined with the fact that we have hands, with the capacity of opponens of the thumb - is actually rather advanced .........

And yes , I am nothing more than a triumph over primitive lifeforms in the endless evolution ......

 

[Lord Insane]

Science and technology are one more tool in the hand of evolution.


There is no free will, it is all grist to the mills of evolution.

Yes , you are right - wonderfull tools and a way to get deeper insight into everything , that surrounds us - and the human body .......

Luckily we have a FREE WILL to decide , what we want to use our tools for -
killing is only one example - we have also made your computer and internet with it , made medicine and complicated surgery - even build airplanes and launched rockets into space !!!!

 

[S.A.M.]

I am glad, that you have realised, that you have a delusion .......

We all persist in a delusion that we are special. We are nothing.

But evolution gave us a brain - also intelligence and we are able to make morals ...... incredible but true .......

Evolution "gives" nothing. All chance. Random mutations and selection pressure.

Well , the intelligence of homo sapiens, combined with the fact that we have hands, with the capacity of opponens of the thumb - is actually rather advanced .........

Advanced? Do you claim then that evolution is directed and has aims ?

How irrational of you! Tis all but chance, naught more.

Actually , civilization do exist in real life - and yes, civilization do secure the persistence of genes ........

Civilisation is a precept. Do animals know of civilisation?

It exists only in the mind of humans, an illusion created by history (artificial memories) and writing ( a crystallisation of the products of that most unreliable organ, the human mouth)

Yes , you are right - wonderfull tools and a way to get deeper insight into everything , that surrounds us - and the human body .......

Luckily we have a FREE WILL to decide , what we want to use our tools for -
killing is only one example - we have also made your computer and internet with it , made medicine and complicated surgery - even build airplanes and launched rockets into space !!!!

More illusions; evolution gainsays the theory of free will.

Reason is subject to will which is subject to needs.

Needs are the driving force of reason and are dictated by environment.

What then, "free will"?

 

[Lord Insane]

More illusions; evolution gainsays the theory of free will.

Reason is subject to will which is subject to needs.

Needs are the driving force of reason and are dictated by environment.

What then, "free will"?

The FREE WILL is not only subject to needs , but also to your emotions in your brain .....


Angry with someone .....shout at them ,hit them or kill them ...
Love somebody in your family or elsewhere - give them a hug, a kiss or a nice present ..........
Sad : isolate yourself or commit suicide ...
And so on .......

 

[Lord Insane]

We all persist in a delusion that we are special. We are nothing.

Evolution "gives" nothing. All chance. Random mutations and selection pressure.

Succesfull evolution gives you the edge in survival ........and can create surprising results - even you Sam !!!

 

[S.A.M.]

The FREE WILL is not only subject to needs , but also to your emotions in your brain .....


Angry with someone .....shout at them ,hit them or kill them ...
Love somebody in your family or elsewhere - give them a hug, a kiss or a nice present ..........
Sad : isolate yourself or commit suicide ...
And so on .......

All survival mechanisms, not so free

 

[Lord Insane]

Advanced? Do you claim then that evolution is directed and has aims ?

How irrational of you! Tis all but chance, naught more.

One of the definitions of advanced is : farther along in physical or mental development - homo sapiens has come a long way in evolution, and we do have some advanced skills in our brain and hand .....

 

[S.A.M.]

Succesfull evolution gives you the edge in survival ........and can create surprising results - even you Sam !!!

Evolution just is, its neither a success nor a failure, there is no qualitative definition of evolution (except in the minds of those who persist in separarting humans from other associated life forms subject to the same evo pressures).

We humans discriminate between life forms

More delusions of grandeur *sigh*

 

[Lord Insane]

Civilisation is a precept. Do animals know of civilisation?

It exists only in the mind of humans, an illusion created by history (artificial memories) and writing ( a crystallisation of the products of that most unreliable organ, the human mouth)

Just because animals have not got the brains of homo sapiens - then the homo sapiens still got it - and yes , homo sapiens with our intelligence can create civilization .....

 

[Lord Insane]

Evolution just is, its neither a success nor a failure, there is no qualitative definition of evolution (except in the minds of those who persist in separarting humans from other associated life forms subject to the same evo pressures).

We humans discriminate between life forms

More delusions of grandeur *sigh*

There are definitely succesfull evolution and unsuccesfull evolution ....
The unsuccesfull evolution causes the lifeform to die out .....

 

[S.A.M.]

One of the definitions of advanced is : farther along in physical or mental development - homo sapiens has come a long way in evolution, and we do have some advanced skills in our brain and hand .....

Definitions created by humans for humans.

Viewing the planet as an organism, humans are a plague, a destructive species, testing the limits of the environment.

Not so much advanced as out of control, spreading rapidly, consuming limited resources and destroying the sustainability of the environment that supports them.

In the last forty years the human population has doubled, creating enormous selection pressures. I forsee an environmental cataclysm in which the species will self-dectruct.

Will the world cease to exist? I think not.

No matter how hard they try humans cannot destroy life on earth, only themselves.

The myth that humans are required to define the world is an illusion propagated by religion and humanism alike.

Does not the world and its organisms exist beyond our beliefs?

What then is advanced, when our destiny is completely random and out of our control? What use skills?

A giant meteorite tomorrow would solve all the world's problems in one go.

There are definitely succesfull evolution and unsuccesfull evolution ....
The unsuccesfull evolution causes the lifeform to die out .....

There is survival and adaptation.

Success is relative.

The dinosaurs were mighty once.

Just because animals have not got the brains of homo sapiens - then the homo sapiens still got it - and yes , homo sapiens with our intelligence can create civilization .....

What is civilisation and history?

All artificial memories, no basis in reality.

 

[Lord Insane]

More illusions; evolution gainsays the theory of free will.

Reason is subject to will which is subject to needs.

Needs are the driving force of reason and are dictated by environment.

What then, "free will"?

No evolution only says how genes evolve - nothing about free will in the resulting lifeform of the evolution ......

And your logic is flawed because free will are not only subject to needs...
also the driving force of reason is not only needs ......

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution

 

[Lord Insane]

Definitions created by humans for humans.

Viewing the planet as an organism, humans are a plague, a destructive species, testing the limits of the environment.

Not so much advanced as out of control, spreading rapidly, consuming limited resources and destroying the sustainability of the environment that supports them.

In the last forty years the human population has doubled, creating enormous selection pressures. I forsee an environmental cataclysm in which the species will self-dectruct.

Will the world cease to exist? I think not.

No matter how hard they try humans cannot destroy life on earth, only themselves.

The myth that humans are required to define the world is an illusion propagated by religion and humanism alike.

Does not the world and its organisms exist beyond our beliefs?

What then is advanced, when our destiny is completely random and out of our control? What use skills?

A giant meteorite tomorrow would solve all the world's problems in one go.

You are actually right in most of that .......

 

[S.A.M.]

No evolution only says how genes evolve - nothing about free will in the resulting lifeform of the evolution ......

Hello? Anybody home?

 

[Lord Insane]

There is survival and adaptation.

Success is relative.

The dinosaurs were mighty once.

Yep .......

 

[Lord Insane]

What is civilisation and history?

All artificial memories, no basis in reality.

Never the less , homo sapiens has created civilizations - we are still living in them !!
Well, written history is as true as the person , that writes it ....

 

[Lord Insane]

Hello? Anybody home?

Yes , I am right here - if you disagree , then please argue your case ....