The most stupid Apologist thing I've ever read:
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I think you are asking all valid questions - remember that scientist have proven the big bang upto the microseconds. But there are multiple theories which could answer your questions - our science has not yet progressed or maybe we do not have advanced scientific instruments to detect other bands of light. One of the explanation is that big bang keeps on happening every second resulting in a universe with different set of physical laws some which are not in a position to cultivate life as we know it but it results in multiverse.
My question is that we may never know what existed before big bang in our lifetime - why do we need to even find out what exisited before big bang till it does not help us in anyways ..maybe to complete our physics books. Till then we need to explore our universe and bend laws to make our world a better and a beautiful place to live. Religion and God can be kept out of the universe and can be contacted by people who either die or can travel outside the universe. :deal:
The Catholic writer is not that bad. He just takes Aquinas' writings and breaks it down, in modern terms, to argue from a position of faith. I am neutral on this because they don't seem to bash science. Besides, the subject is Thomas Aquinas, who was basically following in Aristotle's footsteps. So that's just history. I don't agree with it, but I don't see much harm in this, except for the influence on gullible minds.
The next guy that Arioch showed - I've seen this guy before. He's the dumb one. Thomas Aquinas would run circles around this idiot. He allows God to be a sadist and he invents elaborately stupid arguments to explain his world view. He has no sense of allegory, mythology or history, just a whiny demand that he should be listened to. This guy is one you want to keep away from the textbook committees. And you want to keep him out of Congress, and out of the court system.
The next guy that Arioch showed - I've seen this guy before. He's the dumb one. Thomas Aquinas would run circles around this idiot. He allows God to be a sadist and he invents elaborately stupid arguments to explain his world view. He has no sense of allegory, mythology or history, just a whiny demand that he should be listened to. This guy is one you want to keep away from the textbook committees. And you want to keep him out of Congress, and out of the court system.
It doesn't stand on its own without the hypothetical dark mass and dark energy that seems to make up most of the universe. We can say we know all about it, but we don't even know what triggered it, so we don't really know all about it.
And what seems to escape those who drool over the Big Bang is that it has absolutely nothing to do with anyone's life or the foreseeable future. Whether the universe experienced a Big Bang, or a Big Bounce, or a Big Whoopee, etc, and whether it was 14 billion, or million, or trillion, etc years ago affects our lives not one iota. And to think of all the money wasted on this useless stuff. More useless than a Jackson Pollock painting.
Theorized, not proven. And I'll be generous, and let's say we have 200 years' worth accurate modern data. Extrapolating back 14 billion years, means extrapolating back by a factor of 70 million. That's pretty bold. And to extrapolate the events in 10[sup]–43[/sup] seconds back 14 billion years ago is bolder still.
Bottom line — No one witnessed it, no instrument recorded it, and it has yet to recur naturally or be recreated in the lab.
We're talking about positives here, not negatives. Although, just to humor you, how do we know the Exodus (I guess you're talking about the Biblical Exodus) never happened?
I know there's evidence in the universe; it's the wasted effort into the needless theorizing and extrapolation that puzzles me. What if scientists determine that on, let's say, 21 Dec 2012, the universe will decompose in the "Big Rip"? Until then, do we party hardy? Do we simply carry on? On 21 Dec 2012, then what? Who cares?
There is no evidence in Egypt that it ever happened. There is evidence that other things were happening at that time.
@Cifo --
Well we can start with the fact that there was never a large population of Hebrew slaves in Egypt, certainly nowhere near the number claimed by the bible(which was many millions). Then we can go into the complete lack of evidence that any large group of people(such as the many millions the bible claims) wandering around in any regional desert for forty years. And before you start the whole "absence of evidence" bullshit, there is absolutely no way for that many people to spend even one night in a place(let alone forty years) without leaving evidence of their passage.
Well we can start with the fact that there was never a large population of Hebrew slaves in Egypt, certainly nowhere near the number claimed by the bible(which was many millions). Then we can go into the complete lack of evidence that any large group of people(such as the many millions the bible claims) wandering around in any regional desert for forty years. And before you start the whole "absence of evidence" bullshit, there is absolutely no way for that many people to spend even one night in a place(let alone forty years) without leaving evidence of their passage.
If i had ever encounted this Chris...this would be all i could say
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