The insect stuff may need its own thread

[RainbowSingularity]

Weĺl I intended it to convey that whilst labour costs would be higher ,nevertheless it would provide worthwhile employment for people.

I am sorry if my engagement in this discussion appears shallow but that does reflect my intellect (perhaps sadly)

I tend to have more questions than answers in most areas of discussion and also seem to be hardwired into a fault finding approach rather than a problem solving one.

Allied to an intellectual laziness that makes it hard for me to keep up my end of the conversation whether or not I happen to agree or disagree with my collocutor.

the victim...
being a good consumer means you have questions.

are all emotions worthwhile ?
do you ever ask questions that people do not want to have asked ?

hardwired into a fault finding approach

what happens when there is no fault ?

rather than a problem solving one

how do you know it is a fault if you have not already judged it as requiring a solution ?

do you think the makers of luxury brands and products get into debate around

worthwhile employment for people.

of their products value to customer cost ?

 

[Write4U]

There is an alarming trend developing. Insect species (including pollinators) are disappearing in alarming numbers.

This is especially disturbing as insects have an outstanding record of survivability under the most hostile environments. They have gone through 5 prior extinction events!!! But they were natural causes. Of course we are now in a human created artificial sixth extinction event.....difference.

Exclusive

: Insects could vanish within a century at current rate of decline, says global review

https://www.theguardian.com/environ...ng-insect-numbers-threaten-collapse-of-nature

 

[geordief]

do you think the makers of luxury brands and products get into debate around
(quote" worthwhile employment for people.")
of their products value to customer cost ?

not as a rule but they do ,of course create their own rationale which is embedded in their own individual and collective experiences

Luxuries are an essential component of a lived life (just not to take liberties with the ecosystems)

 

[iceaura]

More labour intensive is what I thought...would that be right?

Different labor intensive.

And part of that traces to the lack of research - what labor savings there are in industrial ag (less than commonly assumed, as farmers are replaced by temp and migrant and auxiliary labor, hired hands of various kinds) in part came from research and technological advances.

There's nothing says "organic" or "sustainable" has to be primitive. Even the genetic techniques have a role - some of them are simply careful breeding, for example.

Industrial ag has a fifty year head start in modern science, for no good reason (corporate influence on the land grant universities in the US played a huge role). The ignorance with which we currently face this landscape-level decline in arthropods at all taxonomic levels is a typical example of the likely effects of that disproportionate emphasis.